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Sep-16-17
 | | ChessHigherCat: <FSR> Which proves that while you can't castle out of check, you can castle into checkmate (for your opponent) |
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Sep-16-17
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: 6.e5 is one of those royal pain in the derriere variations. Specifically, if you play the Pirc as Black, you have to know tons of theory to survive a *theoretically* weak move, but you may never face an opponent who plays 6.e5. Until, of course, that one game when you have forgotten the best reply and your opponent wins Game of the Day honors. |
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Sep-16-17
 | | offramp: It is rather quaint that in 1969 there was a World Championship for under-26 year olds. Nowadays over-26s are called veterans. |
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| Sep-16-17 | | Ilkka Salonen: I'll explain the pun to non finnish speakers. "Voi vainolaisen hurmehella peittää maan" goes the known military tune Porilaisten marssi. There hurme means blood, but it is a word not used often now. |
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Sep-16-17
 | | FSR: <Ilkka Salonen> I came up with the pun, and I know zero words of Finnish. I just based it White's name being Seuss, and the similarity of his opponent's name "Hurme" to "Ham," a word that appears in the title of one of Dr. Seuss' most famous books, <Green Eggs and Ham>. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green... btw, I see that the book was published exactly six days after I was born! |
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| Sep-16-17 | | GrandMaesterPycelle: well, Hurme doesn't sound like ham because it's Finnish, so it's Hoor-meh rather than herm, but we can ignore such details. |
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| Sep-16-17 | | thegoodanarchist: <FSR: Note that this game, like the GOTD earlier this week of A Kvicala vs NN, 1869, involves checkmate effected by castling.> As I played over the final move, I thought how interesting it would be to have a collection of games that all end in either O-O# or O-O-O# |
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| Sep-16-17 | | ColeTrane: when a female cannabis plant develops male pollen sacks it has "hermed out" |
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| Sep-16-17 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: If Black had played 17 ... e6, the continuation could have been 18 Ng5+ fxg5
19 Rf1+ Ke7
20 Qf6+ Kd7
and then, believe it or not,
21 O-O-O+ |
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Sep-16-17
 | | catlover: <FSR> you da man! You came up with another exceptional pun! |
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Sep-16-17
| | catlover: <ColeTrane> Makes me wonder what they put in those eggs to turn them green. |
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Sep-16-17
| | FSR: <thegoodanarchist: . . . As I played over the final move, I thought how interesting it would be to have a collection of games that all end in either O-O# or O-O-O#> Game Collection: Mate by Castling or, better yet, https://www.chess.com/article/view/..., which has a few games/game fragments that aren't in my collection. |
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Sep-16-17
| | FSR: <Cheapo by the Dozen: If Black had played 17 ... e6, the continuation could have been 18 Ng5+ fxg5
19 Rf1+ Ke7
20 Qf6+ Kd7
and then, believe it or not,
21 O-O-O+>
Unfortunately, I don't believe it! Doesn't Black have 21...Kc7? |
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Sep-16-17
| | FSR: <catlover> Thanks! |
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Sep-16-17
 | | Bubo bubo: <<Cheapo by the Dozen: If Black had played 17 ... e6, the continuation could have been 18 Ng5+ fxg5
19 Rf1+ Ke7
20 Qf6+ Kd7
and then, believe it or not,
21 O-O-O+>
Unfortunately, I don't believe it! Doesn't Black have 21...Kc7?> I guess <Cheapo by the Dozen>'s point was that this line also features a castling with check. But since this check isn't mate, White might reject 20.Qf6+ in favor of 20.Qg7#. |
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| Sep-16-17 | | jith1207: Should not be the pun like, "Oh, Mate"! |
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Sep-17-17
| | FSR: <thegoodanarchist> Here is my own creation, which has been newly added to CG.com's database, and to my <Mate by Castling> collection: F Rhine vs NN, 2014. |
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Sep-18-17
 | | kevin86: Another mate by castling! |
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Sep-18-17
| | FSR: <kevin86> There's more where those came from: Game Collection: Mate by Castling. |
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| Sep-19-17 | | Arconax: <FSR> A very entertaining collection. And even one of your own games! Must have been fun giving mate by playing 0-0-0. I bet you enjoyed that (your opponent not so much, I suppose). |
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Sep-19-17
| | FSR: <Arconax> Thanks. Yes, I was very pleased. Dunno about my opponent; it was an online game and we weren't chatting. I also now have two games where I mated by capturing en passant, which is probably even rarer than mating by castling. I only know of eight games in chess history, two of which are mine. https://www.denverchess.com/games/v... AND F Rhine vs NN, 2010. The first and by far the coolest such game is G Gundersen vs A H Faul, 1928. |
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| Sep-19-17 | | Arconax: <FSR: I also now have two games where I mated by capturing en passant, which is probably even rarer than mating by castling.> Yes, that seems logical given that castling occurs in most games, while en passant is less common. But, what are the odds that the same player has mated twice with en passant? I'd say astronomical. Most players will never experience this even once! I myself have played thousands of games, if I count casual, informal games and so on, and I'm pretty sure it has never happened to me, not even once (I think I would have remembered). <The first and by far the coolest such game is G Gundersen vs A H Faul, 1928.> Yes, I noticed that the final move in that game is both mate by en passant and a double check. Quite remarkable. |
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| Sep-19-17 | | ughaibu: User: Ilkka Salonen I can't understand your explanation of the pun taken as Finnish. Please give more details. |
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Sep-20-17
| | FSR: <Arconax: . . . But, what are the odds that the same player has mated twice with en passant? I'd say astronomical. Most players will never experience this even once!> I agree. I was very pleased to do it the first time. I never imagined that I'd do it again. As I mentioned on my forum in two posts on September 17, there's a guy who goes by "J711" on YouTube who has two videos on games where he mated by castling. |
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Sep-20-17
| | FSR: <Arconax> Incidentally, as you can imagine, in my more recent game I was chanting to myself <Come on, play ...g5, play ...g5!>. Imagine my joy when he did! Interestingly, both games had a similar finish: I play h4-h5 and line up my two major pieces (including a rook on g8) on the eighth rank, threatening to mate his king on h7 with Rh8#, he/she plays ...g5 to try to sneak his pawn past my h-pawn, and I take en passant with mate! Piece of cake! |
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sac: 18.Ng5+