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Mihail Chommyyev vs Tigran L Petrosian
14th Dubai Open (2012), Dubai UAE, rd 1, Apr-15
Slav Defense: Czech Variation. Classical System (D18)  ·  0-1



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  Oxspawn: If this is very easy, then I am very slow. I feel sure that it must start with a queen sacrifice, and not just because it is Monday, but I cannot find a clear win.

<20. Qxg2+
21. Kxg2 Nxe3+
22. Kf3 Nxd1
23. Rxd1 Rxh2>

Looks like a won game (the exchange and two pawns up) but is not mate. <21. Rxh2+ allows Kf3> and I can’t see a way to winkle out the king before the white queen becomes active. A bad way to start the week.

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  Oxspawn: Oxspawn: What is worse, not knowing how to win or not knowing when you have won? If I had been the champ and Chommyy had played on, I'd probably have ended up as the chump. I take no pleasure in having "got it", even if the game score was (to pluck two random numbers out of the air) 14.5-13.5
Oct-01-12  zb2cr: 20. ... Qxg2+; 21. Kxg2, Nxe3+ and Black recovers his sacrificed Queen and comes out up by the exchange.
Oct-01-12  Abdel Irada: <Oxspawn>: I think you're being too hard on yourself. After all, the object of these puzzles is simply to find the best continuation, not to prove a forced victory.

Clearly, you easily found a sacrifice that leads to gaining the exchange and two pawns, a "four-point" plus. I fail to see what's the matter with that.

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  agb2002: Black has two knight for the bishop pair.

The immediate 20... Nxe3 is met with 21.Bxd5 Nxd1 22.Bxe6+ fxe6 23.Rxd1. However, 20... Qxg2+ 21.Kxg2 Nxe3+ 22.Kf3 Nxd1 23.Rxd1 Rxh2 - + [R+N+2P vs 2B] achieves a winning endgame.

Oct-01-12  Castleinthesky: The hardest part of this puzzle was realizing it was not about a mate, but about material advantage. I spent about 5 minutes looking for the mate.
Oct-01-12  Abulherar: very cool puzzle on Monday,Black to move:20...?
The solution is:
20...Qxg2+! 21.Kxg2 Nxe3+!(THE ROYAL FORK)
22.K (any legal move) Nxd1 23.Rxd1 ......
Black has decisive material advantage.
Oct-01-12  Waitaka: <Once> What GOOT stands for?

I found only:

Get Out Of Town
Growing Our Own Teachers
Garlic Oil Ointment Treatment

Oct-01-12  eblunt: <Oxspawn> OTB it's all about winning the game, not how pretty it all is. If I see a move leading to a clear +4 advantage I'll play it like a shot, knowing that the oppo will either resign or I'll grind it out. A win is a win after all.
Oct-01-12  Mojodomo: Several kibitzers have included snatching up the h2 pawn as part of the winning line, and Chommyyev waits to resign until after Petrosian plucks it up. Why is it so important?

Clearly it's a free pawn and adds to the advantage, but is there anything more going on there?

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  LIFE Master AJ: As soon as I saw the puzzle, I knew it had to be the ♕x♖ idea, all that was left was to take a few seconds and work out the details.
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  Oxspawn: I agree <Abdel Irada> and <eblunt>. The challenge is to find the best move. But you need to recognise it when you have got it. Over the board, you need the confidence to play it. Almost everybody who got this knew they had found the best continuation. I was fairly confident I would be kicking myself as, being a Monday, surely there would be a two or three move mate. It is success of a sort, but hardly a solid win. Truth told,I am not sure I care that much about winning. A nice move is a nice move, even when it is played against you. (I hope that does not count as profanity or violating US law!)
Oct-01-12  PhilFeeley: Queen sac Mondays. Gotta love 'em.

What is the Ryder's Cup? If it has nothing to do with chess, then don't bother answering.

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  kevin86: Black gives up queen,then regains it with an advantage of rook + two pawns vs bishop.

Queen sac Mondays. Gotta love 'em

Oct-01-12  BOSTER: At first white played 8.0-0, and then 10.Nxg6 opening "h" file for black, inviting them to attack h2 pawn.

After this white began undressing his king moving g3 and f4.

To show their courage they took black bishop on c3 with own bishop,leaving the e3 pawn unprotected (better was 17.Rxc3).

And finally to help create <POTD>, they played 19.Rg2 with blunder 20...Qxg2 21.Kxg2 Nxe3+ royal fork. What is good in this <POTD> ,in this simple combo that you can't find a refutation like in puzzle represented yesterday.

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  Once: GOOT = Get Out Of That! A position without a forcing move but which leaves the opponent no way to stop a massive threat.
Oct-01-12  Conrad93: I got the puzzle, but what about just taking the pawn?
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  gawain: Looks like win of the exchange after 20...Qxg2+ and a knight fork to recover the queen. I tried to find a quick mate first along the h-file but no luck.
Oct-01-12  Conrad93: Oh, never mind. Chess blindness strikes again.
Oct-01-12  paramount: well, this puzzle is easy enough to break. Monday glory
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  chrisowen: Eviscerating grook black hi standard deliver in d5 I a nabbing g2 b3 ogle knightc4 queen deems it to be safe youre playing a little cracker in 20...Qxg2+ king guard it renited in (got the golden egg plus the goose) queen duel ignoble in kg3 now foot marching bed in knighte3+ field I got able knight i put yo' neck in a noose eeking f3 holiday spree Nxd1 23.Rxd1 Rxh2 over in gauge d5 or g2 e3 POTR ample Pipped Overs Tig Reign.
Oct-01-12  Crispy Seagull: No checkmate today it seems, but win the exchange by capturing the rook on g2 with a forcing check and follow with a royal fork with Ne3. Not your typical Monday.
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  Oxspawn: : The Ryder Cup? Yes, <PhilFeeley> it is to do with chess, being a variation that shows how to win when you are objectively speaking, losing. When -4 going into the end game, you change tactics and drive up the middle. How far is uncertain but generally a fair way. You do well on the whole and hope your opponent does not turn green with envy. You sync your white pieces and you opponent is sunk. You essay not to gain another point while you rope in your teammates to help. You look to the sky to your departed hero and say quietly, “C’est vie la vie.” 14.5-13.5. Checkmate.
Oct-01-12  Patriot: 20...Qxg2+ 21.Kxg2 Nxe3+ and 22.Nxd1 wins the exchange.
Oct-01-12  1stboard: Looks like white might of had a better move at move 18 Qb2 instead of the natural looking Bb2.

However, how many folks would have found that over the board.

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