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Pero Vucinic vs Dejan Djurovic
"Pero Maniac" (game of the day Dec-05-2015)
YUG (1986)
Alekhine Defense: Scandinavian Variation (B02)  ·  1-0



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Dec-05-15  Cheapo by the Dozen: <al wazir>, I presume that's a typo for 16 ... Bc5, the point being that a king move discovers check?

My first thought is that a quiet 17 fxg5 leaves White close in material, with threats both to take the c5 bishop and to pursue the mating attack.

Dec-05-15  FairyPromotion: Wow, the black king got burned to a crisp. Pun is approved.
Dec-05-15  Ratt Boy: This game is a delight.

Butt here's a question: if 9.♘xe5 is good, why precede it with 8.h3? Why not play 8.♘xe5? The same tactical tricks seem to apply with or without the White ♙ on h3.

Dec-05-15  tanu123: good game
Dec-05-15  KPMITfan: Why did black not play 16...Nd4?
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  FSR: <Ratt Boy> On 8.♘xe5??, 8...♘xe5! wins.
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  FSR: See (scroll down to No. 368) for more examples of this precise sacrificial line. See also the prior GOTD M Ahn vs T Ruck, 2007 - the same line, but with reversed colors and White having the useless move a4.
Dec-05-15  Ratt Boy: <FSR: <Ratt Boy> On 8.♘xe5??, 8...♘xe5! wins.>

Of course. Thanks.

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  FSR: <KPMITfan: Why did black not play 16...Nd4?>

That was indeed a much better try. See M Ahn vs T Ruck, 2007, where White (the equivalent of Black in the present game) tried that idea and survived longer than Black did here.

Dec-05-15  JohnBoy: Good memory, Fred!
Dec-05-15  morfishine: <FairyPromotion> On your comment: <Wow, the black king got burned to a crisp. Pun is approved> Speak for yourself, this is just another cheap play-on-word twisting yet another chess players name around and ending up with nothing

The title sucks

End of story


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  kevin86: Black's king is chased to white's king square...punishment for his greed!
Dec-05-15  Ferro: lo admito
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  thegoodanarchist: Not a great game, but certainly interesting and fun to look over.
Dec-05-15  Ferro: I see 14...Ke3
and 15...Nd4
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  Phony Benoni: <KPMITfan> <16...Nd4> Suffers from the same sort of problem as <al-wazir>'s 16...Bc5:

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White regains the queen with 17.fxg5, and Black will find that he must donate additional material to free his king -- if he can.

This can happen in these games where the king is driven to the other side of the board. The attacking pieces are so far away that the defenders simply can't get to where they need to be.

For a classic example of this idea, see Averbakh vs Kotov, 1953. White gives back piece after piece, but can't get his king out of the trap.

Dec-05-15  Ferro:
Dec-05-15  Ferro: 14...Ke3
Dec-05-15  eaglewing: How about combining the ideas of 16. ... Bc5 and 16. ... Nd4 into 16. ... Qc5 with soon to follow Nd4?

Sure, material goes down but Black would like to play on with just one or two pawns down and a King escaping from the immediate mating threats. Any crushing answers against this move?

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  Phony Benoni: <eaglewing> Once again, Black can't get there from here. After <16...Qc5>, the magic move is <17.Ng3>:

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With e2 covered, White now threatens 18.Ff3#. Black's king is frozen and he has no checks, limiting his possibilities:

<17...Qxc3 18.Nf5+ 18.Nf5+ Ke2 19.Bh5#>.

<17...Qd5 18.Rf2>, with Nf1# to follow.

<17...Qh5 18.Bxh5 Nd4 19.Nf5+ Nxf3 20.Rf3+ Ke2 21.Rg3#>

<17...Nd4 18.Rf2 Ne2+ 19.Nxe2>, and the mate by Ng3 and Nf1 can only be delayed by spite moves.

<17...Ne5 18.Rf2> and 19.Nf1# follows.

Now, an important admission: yes, I used a computer to find these lines. (Hey, I'm a lazy old man with no chess ambitions left; we're entitled.) Over-the-board there are no guarantees.. But then, there is no way White calculated the whole line from queen sacrifice to mate. He was trusting to judgment and his knowledge of positions with similar themes.

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  al wazir: <Phony Benoni: I assume you mean <16...Bc5>>. Yes.

<One possible idea: <17.fxe5 Rhf8 18.Rde1+...>> I assume you mean 17. fxg5. I looked at that line, except that I was thinking 18. Rfe1+, and I couldn't convince myself that it worked.

<Cheapo by the Dozen: I presume that's a typo for 16 ... Bc5, the point being that a king move discovers check?>. Yes.

Thanks to both of you.

Dec-06-15  Ferro: Otra Respuesta: 14...Nd5
y 15...Bb4
Dec-06-15  Ferro: and Topalov levanta la copa
Dec-06-15  Ferro: 14...Nd5
y 15...Bb4

Carlsen seƱala la jugada maestra: Eso es Ajedrez!

Dec-06-15  Ferro: Magnus Carlsen: Eso es Ajedrez!
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