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| Jan-28-12 | | Patriot: I meant to say 35.Rff8 in line A.
Why didn't I consider 37...Rd8 in line A.2? This must be a board vision mistake, not seeing this simple defense idea. |
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Jan-28-12
 | | Jimfromprovidence: The end game looks tough to win. For example, 42...Rb5 looks better than the text as it ties white's rook to defense of the b pawn.
click for larger viewI think this part is where the difficulty level comes into view. |
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Jan-28-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <Morfishine> I think the "old Alekhine game" was Alekhine vs Colle, 1925:
click for larger view<30.Qxd7! Rxd7 31.Re8+! Kh7 32.Rcc8 Rd8 33.Rexd8!> Not 33.Rcxd8? Qc1+! and Black escapes the mate. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | SugarRaySam: Here's the solution:
33.Qxe6+
33...Rxe6 (black has no choice to take the queen because 33...Kh7 loses a rook) 34.Rc8+
34...Kh7 (only option for black as he cannot block the check on the 8th rank) 35.Rf4-f8 (threatening 36.Rh8#)
35...Qd1+
36.Kg2
36...Rd1 (blockinq the 8th rank and mating possibility) 37.Rxd1 Qxd1 38.Rxd1 and the result is white winning a bishop This is it I believe. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <Jimfromprovidence> This actually looks straightforward for White as after 42...Rb5 43. b4 a5 44. Rd4 Kg8 (44...a4? 45. Rd8) 45. Rf4! a4 46. Ke3 is winning for White. Another line could go 42...Rb5 43. b4 Rb6 44. Kg3 Ra6 45. Rd3 Kg8 46. Kg4 Kf7 47. Re3 with the plan of pushing h5. LTJ |
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| Jan-28-12 | | bachbeet: Like others here, I got the first few moves. I consider that a good accomplishment. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | morfishine: <sevenseaman> On your comment <I think it was important to find 37.f3 and it was a natural watershed too> This is the key for White: trade down eventually forcing Black to play <Rd8>; Black is down 2-pawns with a bad position; simplifying leaves him without resource. I spent most of my time trying to hold onto the Bishop but finally realized it didn't matter. <Phony Benoni> Thanks for supplying the game Alekhine vs Colle: Couldn't recall the opponent |
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| Jan-28-12 | | RookFile: <The end game looks tough to win.> Not really. If white is careless, black might have a stalemate possibility, but otherwise, black is a pawn down on the queenside. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | Elo: This is the type of puzzle when the first-move is obvious, but only because we know it is a puzzle.
OTB a player might soon consider Qxe6, but how certain would they be that it works? Enough to commit to the move OTB? |
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| Jan-28-12 | | Eduardo Leon: Who else found this puzzle easy, but <32.h3!> incredibly hard to find? |
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Jan-28-12
 | | chrisowen: Again cauldron qxc6 evermore rooks in bewitching brew. In chest riff lead me tally it queen sac in derived back rank yeah it down in dig re at rook c8 one check too climbing rook e8. Hither I nearly it is spun out terrific in queen d7 awaiting angel at in effect no good follow up queen to sword.
So fish try rhetoric in emancipate flog bishop e6 off rooks up. Cream in debt it stitching black respite rook for push in it.
Queen+ thing gates king see ow sky pf3s a mish mash over. Done madeline d5 I grease pawn for king bust h7 in tease rd8 question hinge on material?
Electric gas trouble mask at rade down file white in ascendancy and queenf6 I net? |
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| Jan-28-12 | | TheBish: G Guseinov vs G Sargissian, 2011 White to play (33.?) "Very Difficult"
I didn't think this was too tough; maybe could be a Thursday problem. 33. Qxe6+! Rxe6 34. Rc8+ Kh7 35. Rff8 Qd1+ 36. Kg2
But not 36. Kh2?? Qd6+ 37. Kg2 Qxf8 38. Rxf8 and a draw is the likely outcome. 36...Qd5+ 37. f3 Rd8 38. Rcxd8 Qxd8 39. Rxd8 Rxe3 40. Kf2 and White will win the endgame. This was a little deeper than I first thought, so I'm changing my rating to simply "difficult", or a Friday problem! |
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| Jan-28-12 | | BOSTER: This is the position with white to play move 21.
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Don't you think that move 21 Rh4+ is the strongest in this position, and that the black bishop on e5 can be trapped after white move his knight from c3? |
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Jan-28-12
| | Jimfromprovidence: <LoveThatJoker> <This actually looks straightforward for White as after 42...Rb5 43. b4 a5 44. Rd4 Kg8 (44...a4? 45. Rd8) 45. Rf4! a4 46. Ke3 is winning for White.> I like this line. the only thing I would change is 44...axb4 because if 44...Kg8, then 45 a4!, driving back the rook. 
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So after 44...axb4 45 axb4 white looks pretty good.
click for larger viewNow the black rook cannot shut off the white king from escorting the b pawn up the board unles he loses material to do so. FWIW, it seems more efficient that white's passed pawn is on the b file as well as in the least it saves white's king a tempo. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | ChessNewbie55: More like a tuesday... |
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| Jan-28-12 | | stst: Try this out:
33.QxB+ RxQ
34.Rc8+ Kh7 (R intercept not effective)
35.Rf8 threatens Rh8# Qd1+ (what else)
36.Kh2 Rd8
37.RxR QxR (to delay)
38.RxQ and W is up a Bishop. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | stst: Yup, pretty much my line, only that Black saves some face by destroying the Bishop, but not the game. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | stst: <Once - Stay hungry, always be curious, always try to be that little bit better than before and keep smiling.> ...Totally Agreed! only if one got the energy (often not me as from a tiring day of work - every single day!!!) |
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| Jan-28-12 | | tacticalmonster: 33 Qxe6+ Rxe6 34 Rc8+ Kh7 35 Rff8:
a) 35 Rd1+ 36 Kg2! (36 Kh2 Rh1+! 37 Kxh1 Qxh3+ 38 Kg1 Qg4+ =)- forced mate is coming b) 35 Qd1+ 36 Kg2! (36 Kh2 Qd6+ 37 Kg2 Qxf8 38 Rxf8  ) Qd5+ 37 f3 Qd2+ 38 Bxd2 Rxd2+ 39 Kg3 - forced mate is coming |
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| Jan-28-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <Jimfromprovidence> Nice tactical idea on the 44...Kg8 45. a4! line. b-pawn: Better to have a b-pawn almost any day than an a-pawn in a Rook ending for sure! LTJ |
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| Jan-28-12 | | newzild: SATURDAY
This looks easy-peasy, as the kingside pawn setup looks ripe for the old Kh7 / Rh8 mating pattern. 33. Qxe6+ Rxe6
34. Rc8+ Kh7
35. Rff8
The question now is whether Black's counterattack is strong enough to avert the mate threat. It appears not: 35...Rd1+
36. Kg2
Not 36. Kh2 Rh1+ 37. Kxh1 (37. Kg2 Qxh3#) Qxh3+ 38. Kg1 Re1# 36...Rg1+
37. Kxg1 Qd1+
38. Kg2
This appears to be better than 38. Kh2 Qd6+
38...Qd5+
39. f3
Can't see any more convincing checks for Black.
Quite easy for a Saturday, I think. A long variation, but with few branches. Time to check. |
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| Jan-28-12 | | M.Hassan: "Very Difficult" White to play 33.?
White is 2 pawns ahead.
Black is about to compenate for one pawn on h3 but White can stop that for the time being at least:33.Qxe6+ Rxe6
34.Rc8+ Kh7
35.Rff8 Threatening mate on h8
35..........Qd1+
36.Kh2 Qd6+
37.Bf4
Black Queen is for time being is running out of checking the King and prefers to get a Rook 37...........Qxf8
39.Rxf8
It seems to me that the forces are still equal and the game may take much longer.
Check to see how game went on |
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| Jan-28-12 | | jackpawn: Surprisingly easy for a Saturday. |
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| Jan-29-12 | | M.Hassan: <once: Stay hungry, always be curious, always try to be that little bit better than before and keep smiling.> Very true and so philosophically nice |
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| Jan-29-12 | | newzild: I overlooked that after 37. f3 the Black queen is protecting the Rd7, allowing 37...Rd8. However, the position is still won for White. |
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sac: 33.Qxe6+