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Ruslan Ponomariov vs Vasyl Ivanchuk
World Cup (2011), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 7, Sep-19
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Nimzowitsch Variation Timman's Line (E15)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Sep-19-11  Billy Vaughan: Money, invites, and bragging rights.
Sep-19-11  lostgalaxy: Yes Trap. I share your humor on that move.
Sep-19-11  Resignation Trap: ...and rating points. Don't forget, the top 3 get into the Candidates'.
Sep-19-11  Asap123: I thought winner would be in the next candidate cycle
Sep-19-11  Beholder: Why are they still playing? Ivanchuk can just take White's last pawn with the ♗, no?
Sep-19-11  JeffCaruso: <Whats the incentive guys for winning this tournment?> The finalists (Grischuk and Svidler) and 3rd place finisher (winner of this match) go on to the next stage of the World Championship cycle.
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  scormus: <Beholder> Why...? Maybe Chuky's trying to win?
Sep-19-11  Kinghunt: Maybe he doesn't want to risk entering even a 2N v. N + P ending with his king trapped in the corner already? Or maybe Ivanchuk just wants to make Ponomariov offer the draw.
Sep-19-11  Asap123: <JeffCaruso: <Whats the incentive guys for winning this tournment?> The finalists (Grischuk and Svidler) and 3rd place finisher (winner of this match) go on to the next stage of the World Championship cycle. >

Thanks. here it is, experience prevailing over youth.

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  Domdaniel: <Beholder> Yes, he can take the pawn. But a pair of Knights - though they cannot force mate against a lone King - can win if the defender has a pawn. It's close to impossible here, but it still means a draw isn't automatic.
Sep-19-11  Asap123: Ivanchuk will draw this even if he is half dead and blind
Sep-19-11  kia0708: Russia - Ukraine 2 : 2
Sep-19-11  leonn0077: this situation is not winnable for either player
Sep-19-11  Beholder: <Domdaniel: <Beholder> Yes, he can take the pawn. But a pair of Knights - though they cannot force mate against a lone King - can win if the defender has a pawn.>

Here in Moscow every pre-school toddler knows that. But Black has a ♘ as well as a pawn, see.

Sep-19-11  Blunderdome: WOOHOO, Go Vasya!
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  scormus: ... and a bishop. does that make any difference ;)
Sep-19-11  Billy Vaughan: Ivanchuk!
Sep-19-11  lostgalaxy: Draw after Ivanchuk asked the umpire to grant it!
Sep-19-11  Ulhumbrus: The "little chess partner" computer gave me the impression that the ending was won for White. However the computer may have played the Black side badly enough to lose.
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  scormus: what! But W has an N AND the opposition. Oh I see, the B pawn has gone so I suppose it must be drawn, not even a self-mate possible;)
Sep-19-11  Octavia: Congratulations, Vasya! Nice, to know his Kosename.
& congratulations to Grishuk, too for making it to the challengers' tourney!
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  scormus: Yes, thanks CG and all 4 players for great chess and the forum for lightening up my afternoon
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  Administrator: Thanks to everyone for watching the World Cup with us. Congratulations to Peter Svidler, Alexander Grischuk, and Vassily Ivanchuk, for winning places in the candidate matches. Our next live broadcasts will be of the upcoming Bilbao tournament. Hope you can join us for that.
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  HeMateMe: Is it official, the next Candidates elimination will be an 8 person tournament, and not single matches?
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  wordfunph: <CG> thanks for the live coverage..

Bilbao coming up!

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