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Vidmantas Malisauskas vs Ular Lauk
Vilnius Zonal (1993), Vilnius LTU, Mar-??
Zukertort Opening: Symmetrical Variation (A04)  ·  1-0

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Dec-28-12
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  doubledrooks: Black threatens Rxf5 and also attacks f2 twice. White, however, has three pieces menacing the Black king.

Therefore, 47. Rg8+, with one line being 47...Kxg8 48. Qg6+ Kh8 49. Qxf6+ Kh7 50. Qxf7+ Kh6 51. Qf8+ Kg6 52. Bd3+ Re4 53. Bxe4#

Dec-28-12
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  chrisowen: Mulled over straight rook coffins 47.rg8+ geoffrey one slide to the left allows to penetrate off eg at ello entrance 48.Qg6+ I new in rookd8 he difficult you really have to forsee oopening lines towards the king goofed free in dutifuls right rook alive con-quest i on king game lecture bishop stays put rook either in 5f? d8 bullshine good zest for life rook sentence in g8 king has little options for goofy f5 thin pickings 48.Qg6+ and c4 at tempest come together it remain blocked as h8 slap in for duty it rambler f6+ hive mind got ease eekingout 49...Kh7, defences at clop in 50.Qxf7+ finger fudge ok h6 and f8 rise i f8 what about akin g6 and hardest of all finding it bd3+ prick up 52.re4 le gun kingh6 a lump in g6 when d3 sacrifices e4 i ment exchange longer to rights having a mosey shell i do g8 first it bed in e4.
Dec-28-12  SuperPatzer77: <Patriot: Difficult? Unless I'm missing something, this seems very easy.>

<Patriot> Yeah, that's absolutely right! Not too difficult to find a winning move. We may be looking for a sacrifice like this. It sure as heck leads to an easy solution to this puzzle.

<Patriot> Don't think about getting "over-the-hill", OK? Just screw our age. LOL - Happy New Year to you and chess folks!!

SuperPatzer77

Dec-28-12  fokers13: Got all of it.

I think the difficulties are a little messed up as of late,could just be me though.

Dec-28-12  Patriot: <SuperPatzer77> I don't know about you, but I'm too young to think about being "over-the-hill". :-)

Happy New Year to you as well!

Dec-28-12  Marmot PFL: <Patriot> Agreed, I found it quickly too for a Friday, maybe because I have a game going with a similar pattern (Bc4 pinning pf7, allowing Qg6). In my game black still has his pg7 and I have pf6 so Qxg7 mate is threatened.
Dec-28-12  ChemMac: 44....QXa2 seems to have been the losing move. Black had to play 44...Qe5, to be able to answer White's threats with Q or R to e5 or R to e7 or e8 as needed.
Dec-28-12  SuperPatzer77: <Patriot: <SuperPatzer77> I don't know about you, but I'm too young to think about being "over-the-hill". :-)>

<Patriot> I'm already over-the-hill. LOL

Smile!!

SuperPatzer77

Dec-28-12  cyclon: 47. Rg8+ Kxg8 ( 47. -Kh6 48. Rh8+ Kg7 49. Qh7X ) 48. Qg6+ Kh8 49. Qh5+ Kg7 50. Qxf7+ Kh6 51. Qf8+ and now both 51. -Kg6 52. Bf7+ Kh7 53. Qg8+ Kh6 54. Qg6X and 51. -Kh7 52. Bg8+ Kh8 ( 52. -Kg6 53. Qf7+ Kh6 54. Qh7X ) 53. Bf7+ Kh7 54. Qg8+ Kh6 55. Qg6X makes the end.
Dec-28-12  Patriot: <SuperPatzer77> <<Patriot> I'm already over-the-hill. LOL

Smile!! > Sorry, I hope things get better. :-) Have a good one!

Dec-28-12  James D Flynn: Material is equal but that is irrelevant because both Ks are under attack. In addition Whites Q, the only defender of the pawn on f2, if the Q deserted that defense e.g. Qc8 Black would mate by 47.Qc8 Qxf2+ 48.Kh1 Qf3+ 49.Kg1 Bf2+ 50.Kf1 Bg3+ 51.Kg1 Qf2+ 52.Kh1 Qh2#. Because of this threat White must check or play the passive Qf3 after which Black could answer Re7 to defend his pawn on f7 from a second attack by Whites R. 47.Rg8+ Kxg8(if Kh6 48.Qxf6+ Kh7 49.Rh8#) 48.Qg6+ Kh8 49.Qxf6+ Kh7 50.Qxf7+ Kh6 51.Qf8+ Kg6 (or Kh7) 52.Bd3+ Re4 53.Bxe4# the White mate is amusingly similar to the mate Black had threatened if the White Q abandoned the f2 pawn.
Dec-28-12  Bobby Fiske: Rg8+ - easy peasy, even when being under the influence of Ben Webster At The Renaissance and a bottle of Valdepenas.
Dec-28-12  stanleys: I agree with <Patriot>,the only move that took me several seconds was Qf8+
Dec-28-12  Jambow: Just couldn't see the Queen invasion was possible because of the Bishop pin on f7 after Rg8+, kept trying to work my way in from the outside :0[

Got the first move correct as it had to be with + because of the threats on f2

Dec-28-12
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  thegoodanarchist: I am a USCF class A player and got this in about 10 seconds (I only calculated two candidate moves, my second one being the winning rook sac).

Is that about the right level of difficulty for a Friday?

Dec-28-12  BOSTER: My comment is not a compilation of fictional events. Everything is real.

<Once> <I have certainly noticed that comments posted early on tend to get more replies>.

<gofer> <the only thing I'd say is that I totally agree with <Once> in that if I post late GMT, then I very rarely get any response>.

<Patriot> <Nothing against you, your posts are very entertaining>.

Thanks for your interpretation.

Dec-28-12
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  OhioChessFan: I sort of see <Boster> point about the time of the POTD. I recall posting a few years back about a kibitzer who apparently got to the party late every day, usually interesting, often not commented on. They disappeared after a few months and I wonder if it was from the sense of speaking to an empty room. In any case, for most people chess is its own reward and people tend to be self motivated and not interested in applause or acknowledgment.
Dec-28-12  zb2cr: Hi <thegoodanarchist>,

Several have commented that this puzzle is easier than the standard Friday.

Dec-28-12  Abdel Irada: <OhioChessFan: I sort of see <Boster> point about the time of the POTD.>

Agreed, but I'm not sure I see a practical solution. Whenever the puzzle is posted will be inconvenient for someone. Ultimately, <chessgames.com> just has to post when it works best for the site admins.

Dec-28-12
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  OhioChessFan: <AI> yes, that's the bottom line.
Dec-29-12
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  Once: I think the point here is about respect. <BOSTER> has a legitimate point of view, even though he might have expressed it differently. Latecomers can feel disenfranchised by POTD. By the time they get here the party is nearly over, all the pringles have been eaten and the cool dudes have moved on to the next party.

As Scotty would say, we cannae change the laws of physics. But we can change the way we react to them. So I have a habit of looking in on a POTD when the party is over, to see if there is anything worth commenting on at the death. Which is just what I am doing now. Maybe if some of us did that, the latecomers wouldn't feel so left out.

Mind you, that doesn't guarantee that someone will get a reply. Their post has to be interesting too.

Dec-29-12
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  perfidious: <Once> The blackguards ate all the Pringles? That calls for draconian measures in response-possibly being forever barred from possession of Pringles is the only solution.
Dec-29-12
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  OhioChessFan: http://i.qkme.me/3oi1ow.jpg
Dec-29-12  Abdel Irada: <Once: So I have a habit of looking in on a POTD when the party is over, to see if there is anything worth commenting on at the death. Which is just what I am doing now. Maybe if some of us did that, the latecomers wouldn't feel so left out.>

As a matter of fact, I do that, too. As long as the kibitzing for a game appears on my profile page, and I see that another post has been added after my most recent one, I go back to see what it was.

Of course, this contains a built-in limiting mechanism: As soon as the game leaves my profile, I am unlikely to click the link to bring it back up. After that point, I am unlikely to notice further posts unless I happen to encounter one of them during a Google search. However, this still generally means I will continue to review the game for two or three days, so even latecomers stand a good chance of getting a response to an attention-grabbing post.

I do understand the vexation of making a late post into the Twilight Zone. Not infrequently, I'm too busy to finish a Sunday puzzle when it's posted, and I've been known to return and post my solution after the Monday puzzle is already up. And as most of you know, I tend to present fairly comprehensive solution posts, some of which take several hours to check and complete, so when I post a four-part solution at midnight Monday, it can be a bit frustrating to see that no one else has added anything to the page after my post.

However, none of this is anyone's fault except possibly my own. We all know the schedule and the rules, and all we can do is make the best of them.

Jan-18-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <zb2cr: Hi <thegoodanarchist>,

Several have commented that this puzzle is easier than the standard Friday.>

Thanks, zb. Makes sense.

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