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Alexander Grischuk vs Boris Gelfand
World Championship Candidates (2011), Kazan RUS, rd 3, May-24
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Two Knights Defense Blockade Line (D37)  ·  1/2-1/2

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May-24-11
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  moronovich: <Domdaniel: "All the tired horses..."

Obligatory Dylan quote.>

A very nice little underrated tune.

Happy Birthday Bob !

May-24-11  haydn20: If Black swaps these N's his problms are over I'd think.
May-24-11  libertyjack: Draw agreed.
May-24-11  uscfratingmybyear: <Domdaniel> CLANG, CLANG, CLANG! Line of the day on Dylan's 70th.
May-24-11  Chris00nj: For what it's worth, Pocket Fritz 4 gives the position a 0.00
May-24-11  Chesschatology: All roads lead to Rome, and by Rome I mean "a draw". Annoying- Grischuk overlooked a simple tactic in a very strong position- he was lucky it didn't turn out worse for him.
May-24-11
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  moronovich: ½-½

And in the meantime they play a christmas song in Kazan ;)

May-24-11  lost in space: Yeah, draw agreed; but I can live with draws if they are not grandmasterdraws or draws agreed with a lot of play remaining on the board (like the 2 last games)

This here was a fine and nice game.

May-24-11
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  Domdaniel: Did Gelfand defend coolly and then take his chance to break out, or did Grischuk fluff it? His 18.Na4 doesn't look like a great idea, and then he missed 22.Bg4? e5!
May-24-11  BobCrisp: @#$% <Dylan>!
May-24-11
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  Domdaniel: Not *everyone* named Bob is a nutter.
May-24-11
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  Domdaniel: In fact, Nigel Short used to call Gelfand 'Bob'. Some people just have Bobness.
May-24-11  Ulhumbrus: Back again, with a mug of tea. It seems that Grischuk did not in fact manage to do much with his Knights. On 39...bxc6 40 Rxb8 Bxb8 White's d4 pawn is potentially vulnerable to attack from Black's Bishop, but I assume that this is not enough to enable Black to win, and that this is why Gelfand has agreed to s draw.
May-24-11  BLarsen1967: will Bob Gelfand paint his Masterpiece tomorrow??
May-24-11  Wyatt Gwyon: So when does the excitement start?
May-24-11  OneArmedScissor: Grischuk will play a King's Indian and win
May-24-11  ajile: <Wyatt Gwyon: So when does the excitement start?>

Probably not until at least the rapids.

May-24-11  Marmot PFL: <Did Gelfand defend coolly and then take his chance to break out, or did Grischuk fluff it? His 18.Na4 doesn't look like a great idea, and then he missed 22.Bg4? e5!>

White spent so much time preventing black's plan that he didn't do anything active himself until after trades had reduced the position to a draw.

May-24-11  Caissanist: <Wyatt Gwyon: So when does the excitement start?>

a) Tiebreaks, or b) when you start following other chess events. The Capablanca Memorial in Cuba, which finished a couple of days ago, was pretty excit, and no doubt would have been a lot of fun to follow had there been a live feed. Ivanchuk and Le Quan Liem tied for first, and Ivanchuk's last round win over Le was enjoyable and instructive. Ivanchuk is also a better chess player than either of these guys, though unfortunately he lacks their psychological discipline and stability, or perhaps their pragmatism.

May-24-11  AVRO38: I like this game. It's a clear demonstration of classical chess.
May-24-11  polarmis: <Domdaniel: Did Gelfand defend coolly and then take his chance to break out, or did Grischuk fluff it? His 18.Na4 doesn't look like a great idea, and then he missed 22.Bg4? e5!>

In his video later in the day Sergey Shipov thought 18. Na4 (heading for d3) was actually the best option - otherwise it's hard to stop Black's counterplay. After that instead of the bishop going via f5 to h3 (or g4), it's better to go via f1.

My final version of Shipov's commentary is here:

http://www.chessintranslation.com/2...

May-24-11
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  Penguincw: At least it was a more interesting battle than the previous two games.
May-24-11  wordfunph: agree <Peng>, i thought 1/2 right after the queen exchange but they keep on pounding --- that's the right attitude!

nice game by Alex and Boris..

May-24-11  wordfunph: from TWIC..

Grischuk

It was an interesting game, white had a big space advantage but black had a lot of different types of break-throughs mostly it's e6-e5 of course but also sometimes sacrificing the bishop on f4 was interesting.

As it happened I probably didn't play in the most precise way. and let black achieve this e6-e5 after that my advantage was just symbolic and nothing happened from it.

Gelfand

I got a slightly passive position but then I manoevered all my pieces to the best possible squares in this position and after black managed to get in e5 the main problems are in the past. I have to play accurately of course, Qc8 is an accurate move but basically that's it.

http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

May-25-11  picard: 23. dxe5! try that one on.
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