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Levon Aronian vs Alexander Grischuk
World Championship Candidates (2011), Kazan RUS, rd 1, May-07
Gruenfeld Defense: Russian. Hungarian Variation (D97)  ·  1/2-1/2

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May-07-11  JuliusDS: Can white bring his king over to the a pawn and either support it or free his rook to gain some activity or make trouble with the f pawn?
May-07-11
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  chancho: I think Levon is going to garner the full point.
May-07-11
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  WinKing: I think these guys like spotting each other a pawn. All three games so far I believe.
May-07-11  Bobwhoosta: This looks even, and in rook endgames that means drawn. Of course white has the extra pawn, but it will be VERY difficult to realize with black's rook behinds it, and white's rook out of position to stop the counterplay with black's outside passer. Best play leads to a draw imo.
May-07-11
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: I used to win quite a few of these "drawn" endings, sometimes with the pawn minus! However, it doesn't seem possible at this level of play that Aronian can win, unless he sold his soul to the devil or Grischuk cracks in time pressure.
May-07-11
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  Domdaniel: Anticlimactic, isn't it?
May-07-11  lost in space: neverthelees, locking drawish for a patzer like me.
May-07-11
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  moronovich: <Best play leads to a draw imo.> As such does the starting position;)

Hi <Bobwhoosta>! Long time no seen.

May-07-11  lost in space: What a time difference!!!

1h 20 min left for Aronian, 8 minutes for Grischuk. How exactly are the time/move rules here?

May-07-11
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  moronovich: Winningchances around 10-15 % IMO
May-07-11
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  moronovich: Grischuk looks (on the live fed) as a guy who will survive.
May-07-11  marcwordsmith: Dare I mention it? Rybka on chessok says +1.10
that is significant, yeah?
May-07-11  marcwordsmith: where is that live feed again, please?
May-07-11
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  plang: <Dare I mention it? Rybka on chessok says +1.10 that is significant, yeah?>

No, I don't think so - it just means that the computer sees that White is a pawn up.

Evaluations aren't very useful in these type of endings.

May-07-11  Wild Bill: Gee, whiz. Give it up, guys. This position has been bled dry. It reminds of the end of Botvinnik vs Fischer, 1962 .
May-07-11  Wild Bill: Okay, so they read my mind as I typed that . . . .
May-07-11  marcwordsmith: guess you were right <plang>! I wonder if Levon Aronian will be dispirited now, not managing to score with White twice in a row in pawn up endgames.
May-07-11
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  Domdaniel: <Wild Bill> Somebody heard you.
May-07-11
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  moronovich: Out of 12 games white hasnĀ“t won a single one so far..

(Or neither a double one, as <Dom> cold have put it ;)

May-07-11
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  chancho: So much for my prediction...
May-07-11  Pygeum Lycopene: Grischuk does it again! what a shot in the arm he's been for grunfeld fans! playing material down under extreme time pressure with virtually zero margin for error, against an opponent who is deftly precise at scoring any advantage. dare i say it.. magnus who?
May-07-11  kellmano: Bravo Grischuk!

He is a very hard man to beat.

My opinion: Someone who can play inferior positions with great accuracy despite little time on the clock is extremely talented.

May-07-11  Bdellovibrio: I wonder what inspired Grischuk to take up the Gruenfeld? Who is his second in this KO series?
May-07-11  Bdellovibrio: Sorry for the double post, but it seems to have been a good choice against Aronian -> Svidler beat him with it at Dortmund a few years ago, albeit in a different line. If Grischuk ends up advancing and facing Kramnik, the Gruenfeld would be suicidal I think. Kramnik has beaten the two foremost Gruenfeld experts - Kasparov and Svidler.
May-07-11  wordfunph: <Open Defence: Grischuk has used up a lot of the clock!>

<OD> from TWIC..

Grischuk got into his customary time trouble (he kept looking at the game Mamedyarov-Gelfand in spite of this!) and missed a chance to equalise completely on the run up to first time control.

http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

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