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Henrik Danielsen vs Thomas Luther
Petermännchen GM (1999), ?
Bird Opening: Dutch Variation (A03)  ·  1-0



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Feb-14-12  gitz: GM Danielsen analyses this game on his you tube web page: The mystery of the illegal moves is solved: simply bad transcription. Here is the actual game – a very fascinating and unorthodox game, as you will see 1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Bg4 3.e3 Nd7 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 Nf6 6.g4 e6 7.d3 Bb4+ 8.c3 Bd6 9.e4 dxe4 10.dxe4 e5 11.g5 Ng8 12.f5 h6 13.h4 Be7 14.Qh5 Nb6 15.Be3 Qd6 16.Na3 c6 17.Nc4 Nxc4 18.Bxc4 0-0-0 19.Rh2 Qc7 20.Bxf7 hxg5 21.Qxh8 Nh6 22.Qxg7 Ng4 23.f6 1-0
Jun-16-15  ventricule: This is really a fascinating game. It could be a worthy Game of the Day imo, maybe with a pun between the unorthodoxy of white's development and black's name (I leave actual suggestions to the pun experts around here)
Jun-16-15  parisattack: A Surtees/ROT style game.

Nov-23-15  Compound Error: Fartin' Luther King?
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  fredthebear: Here's GM Danielsen explaining:
Nov-13-21  Dionysius1: Thanks <fredthebear>. It's nice to hear the player's explanation as well as a description of the Polar Bear System.

One thing bothers me: at 05:15 he says of a king side space advantage "and of course, space advantage is permanent". In the context I think it's clear that he's saying it's well known that space advantages are permanent.

Is that something that's known about space advantages? I hadn't heard it before and I don't see why it should be so. I can think of reasons why they would be no more permanent than other kinds of advantage (time and material being the obvious ones).

Can anyone bring some light to that please?

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  moronovich: Good question <Dionysius> !

The author says "spaceadvantages" in plural.Like it is some kind of law.Which is bothering me a bit too...Well it certainly goes for many positions,but not for all.So the burden of proof should be on Danielsen and not the reader/student.

So it may be better just to let it pass and move on.

But if we take a KID, then the white spaceadvantage is quite solid (but not 100% permanent) and is the reason for Computers giving white an edge of around o.75-0.90.But then the tactics start ;)

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  fredthebear: Space advantages are created by advancing pawns to the frontier line, and beyond. Since pawns cannot go backwards, it's a permanent fixture. A space advantage gives one more room for his pieces to operate. In fact, if one's pieces are unable to operate there, one probably should not advance his pawns there. Once the pawns take off, they can never return home; it's a permanent leave.

The farther the pawns march toward the opposing camp, the more difficult it gets to protect them from behind. However, a phalanx of pawns charging forward threaten to capture or cramp everything they come in touch with. It takes time (costs multiple moves) to get slow pawns down the board!


Advancing pawns also leave weak squares behind and beside the pawn, because those squares can never again be defended by a pawn (essentially one is moving the wall of the fort, expanding it like a balloon). You don't want the opposing army to penetrate between/behind your pawn structure.

Thus, pawn advances are highly committal; it can be a strength and/or a weakness.

One can win games without a space advantage by constantly moving your pieces (not pawns). The quickest versions of Scholar's Mate, for example (1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Bc5 3.Qh5?! Nf6?? 4.Qxf7# 1-0), White only moves one pawn and two pieces; the pieces fixate to deliver checkmate. Against an alert opponent, an army must move at least two pawns in the opening to allow both bishops and the queen off the back row. Bishops prefer to be in front of their pawns, not behind their pawns.

It is especially dangerous to move the f-pawn and/or g-pawn without knowing the exact theory of an opening, as the king is exposed to checks on the diagonal. Chess is a battle over control of the center, by aiming into the center, so that the center can be occupied sooner or later. If one wishes to play on the wing, he must neutralize/close the center.

If this explanation was not clear, I would advise studying WEAK SQUARES, WEAK PAWNS, & PAWN STORMS/PAWN ROLLERS.

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  moronovich: The question is : Are all spaceadvantages permanent,as Danielsen indicates.No they are not.Some are temporary.

And in this light, he could have been more precise.But as a rule of thumb, he is on to something.

Nov-13-21  Dionysius1: I'm going to spend some time studying <fredthebear>'s answer - thanks fred.

I'm going to treat space advantages as more permanent than some, and work out why, moronovich.

And the broad conclusion for me is not to take half a sentence too seriously - but it's great if it starts me thinking!

Thanks kibitzers! rarely disappoints, and then it's fun anyway

Best to all

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