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Judit Polgar vs Veselin Topalov
"Mexican Standoff" (game of the day Nov-30-2010)
Ajedrez UNAM Quadrangular (2010) (rapid), Mexico City MEX, rd 2, Nov-21
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit (C33)  ·  1-0



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Nov-30-10  Wessel23: Polgar seems to favor 4.exd5 over 4.Bxd5. As a KG-player myself, I still don't know which one is better. Any help?
Nov-30-10  Fezzik: Let's see... A 2700 beat a 2800 using this line. I've no idea about the theoretical implications of this game, but I'm inclined to believe Polgar here.
Nov-30-10  Petrosianic: <Polgar seems to favor 4.exd5 over 4.Bxd5. As a KG-player myself, I still don't know which one is better. Any help?>

<I've no idea about the theoretical implications of this game, but I'm inclined to believe Polgar here.>

If you're going to believe someone, it's important to be sure that they said what you're believing. Actually, the fact that a GM plays a line in a single game doesn't mean that they're saying it's objectively best. Sometimes maybe, but other times it just comes down to personal taste, what mood they're in that day, their standing in the tournament, or other things. Perfect example: by playing 2. f4, Polgar wasn't saying that that move was "better" than 2. Nf3. It simply suit her purposes better at that moment.

Nov-30-10  FISCHERboy: Interesting. Gambit accepted, a tricky counter play to ruin one's traditional opening repertoire. This bold opening creates a lot of possible sharp tactical plays.
Nov-30-10  CapablancaFan122: Props to Polgar for playing the King's Gambit. It's rare to find it being played at grandmaster level.
Dec-01-10  whithaw: It is interesting that Topalov rejected 2..., d5 which often leads to good/equal play for black after 3. ed, ef. Everyone is well aware that Topalov likes to take chances, and perhaps he feels that 2..., ef offers greater opportunity for black to play for a win. Still, it is hard to imagine a 2800 player losing so quickly against the KGA. Polgar is playing well this tournament, and surely this will create some interest in the KGA...
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  perfidious: <whithaw> As I stated, the line with 3....d5 isn't wonderful for Black. The standard theoretical continuation is 3....Nf6 4.Nc3 c6, but Topalov must have had an improvement somewhere, as I can't imagine him playing 3....d5 without something planned.

Another idea for Black after 2....d5 is 3.exd5 c6, which is the move usually played nowadays when Black chooses the Falkbeer.

Dec-01-10  Nimzonick: This reminds me of the tactic in the famous Spassky-Fischer King's Gambit where Fischer blundered a piece, and Spassky moved a rook to e5, initiating the tactical sequence. Loved the game
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  kingfu: This is beyond tactics. This is MEDIEVAL. I love it.

Let us MUNGE until someone is toast. Bring out the mace and the morning glory.

Boris Spassky played the King's Gambit in the last round of a major Soviet Tournament when he needed a win to take The Trophy.

He won! Spaseba , Boris. I hope you are doing well. To win at life is much better than winning a chess championship in 1972.

Long live The King's Gambit!

Dec-01-10  unsound: I don't munge.
Dec-01-10  hedgeh0g: <Polgar seems to favor 4.exd5 over 4.Bxd5. As a KG-player myself, I still don't know which one is better. Any help?>

If you play Bxd5, you have to be prepared to lose a tempo to Nf6 at some point in order to keep the diagonal open. If you play exd5, the converse is true. I'd say it comes down to personal preference.

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  kingfu: unsound,

It is unsound to munge because you are just as likely to be the mungee instead of the mungor!

Sometimes, you just have to go for it.

Many times, the King's Gambit works because your opponent is UNPREPARED.

Why would anybody play the King's Gambit?

Because it is fun and the soul of Chess.

Long Live The King's Gambit!

Dec-01-10  messachess: To let himself be maneuvered into 22.Rf5, Topa must really be out of it. That's not even master play.--far from it.
Dec-01-10  unsound: <kingfu> I've played the KG, so OK, I guess I do munge sometimes.
Dec-02-10  Abdooss: Long Live The King's Gambit.. Long Live Queen Judit!!
Dec-02-10  qjuice14: I really enjoy playing these types of games. I have played the black side of KGA 6x's over the board in classical tournaments and am +5 =0. I beat a 2160 on monday in our club champsionship tournament playing black in a KGA. As <fanofchess82> said, if you like razor sharp positions where one error can destroy your position, then this is a fun opening.
Dec-03-10  rustyj: Why does Topalov make this move?

19. ...Bh5

? I can't figure if it is a perceived threat, a real threat, or a decoy move?

Only to come back on 20. and ...Bxf3

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  beenthere240: <whithaw> In the London tournament, Short surely caused everyone to lose interest in the KGA. ;-)
Dec-23-10  BLarsen1967: Not so sure about that,Nigel Short lost 5 games out of 7 in The London Classic - but at least with his KGA he drawed !
Oct-07-11  DeReFormation: 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 Qg5,is this a V. of KGA:Bishop's Gambit,any games in db.
Oct-07-11  Shams: <DeReFormation> Looks a little fishy. I found one game, not in this db:
Oct-07-11  DeReFormation: <Shams>Thank u for that.Are there any games in db of (C32):Alapin V. Falkbeer C-G?
Oct-07-11  Shams: <DeRe> Can you give the line please?
Oct-07-11  DeReFormation: <Shams>Sure.It is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 e4 4.d3 Nf6 5.dxe4 Nxe4 6.Nf3 Bc5 7.Qe2 Bf2 8.Kd1 Qd5 9.Nfd2
Oct-07-11  Shams: <DeRe> Doesn't 9.Nfd2 just give White an edge in that line?

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