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| Jul-04-11 | | sfm: LOL! Grabbed the 1.Ng6+ one too. How embarrassing... |
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| Jul-04-11 | | reztap: I liked the mate in three better beginning with n-g6. Double sacrifice is very classy. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | alachabre: Ng6+ is mate if the knight can be deflected and the rook pawn held ineffective, and 24. Rxh7+ accomplishes both. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | stst: Very easily tricked!
3 Lines:
(A)24.RxP+ NxR, 25.Ng6# (K smothered)
(B)24.RxP+ KxR, 25.Qh5#
(C)24.Ng6+ NxN, 25.RxP+ KxR, 26.Qh5# |
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| Jul-04-11 | | stst: Some missed the Ng6+ line, yet I saw the Rxh7 line first, but momentarily got the thought that it couldn't be really that easy?! and saw NxR. Then almost instantly I also saw Ng6+, and hence work out both mentally - and indeed, that should be that easy - just for July 4!?! |
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| Jul-04-11 | | Patriot: I briefly considered 24.Ng6+ but turned attention to 24.Rxh7+ since it seemed a stronger pattern to recognize. However, both work as many have noted. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <abuzic> You're quite right on both counts. I should be satisfied with solving a Monday puzzle, and not go around getting fancy. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | pericles of athens: found it in one second. and i've never even played in a tournament or at a club. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | BiteByBits: In today's position we can see that the black king is smothered by his own pieces, such as the Rg8 and pawn at g7. His pawns are defended only by a knight, we have knight and rook as attackers, and the key is that the queen has access to the h-file. 24. Rxh7+ Kxh7 (forced) 25. Qh5++ (first thing i saw)
then using the same analogy,
24. Ng6+, Nxg6 (forced) 25 Qh5++ |
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| Jul-04-11 | | VincentL: "Very easy".
Somewhat unusual mating pattern here.
24. Rxh7+.
(a) 24.....Kxh7 25. Qh5 mate
(b) 24.....Nxh7 25. Ng6 mate.
I presume black resigned without waiting for the coup de grâce. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: Epaulette schmepaulette. I think of 'em as <virtual back rank mates>, where the 'rank' can be a file. Anything with the edge of the board on one side, a column of enemy pieces on the other, and an enemy King caught in the 'tunnel'. Two quick mates available here with Ng6+ or Rxh7+. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Once: I think I have worked it out. CG.com have noticed that we've been getting better and better at these puzzles. So they have started mixing cryptic clues along with the chess. To make it a bit more of a challenge. And when you start to think that way, you notice that only one of today's multiple solutions is the real answer. Okay, so 24. Rh7+ mates in two moves. But it <only> sacrifices a rook <and> it has two variations to find. And that means that it cannot possibly be the answer to a monday puzzle. It's a trap! By contrast, the longer 24. Ng6+ line has no side variations and it sacrifices both a rook and a knight. Rook + knight = 3 points + 5 points = 8 points = a queen (sort of). So the only true answer for a Monday POTD is 24. Ng6+ because it's the only line that sacrifices the equivalent of a queen. No? Well, it made sense to me.
Odd how we celebrate Independence Day with a puzzle where black had anything except independence. Heck, he had even castled one square to far to the right and his h pawn had dropped off the board. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | estrick: <Phony Benoni: <estrick> What do you mean? The queen has six different squares to go to where she can be captured.> Interesting case of post midnight blindness on my part. I must have been thinking that there is nothing that the White queen can capture that would lead to her being captured in return. The blindness seems to lie in the fact that I don't even notice empty squares where a piece could be moved and just taken. When I'm looking to sac something, it seems I need to take something of lesser value to get the ball rolling. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | estrick: <the longer 24. Ng6+ line . . . sacrifices both a rook and a knight. Rook + knight = 3 points + 5 points = 8 points = a queen (sort of). So the only true answer for a Monday POTD is 24. Ng6+ because it's the only line that sacrifices the equivalent of a queen.> Scary. Cause that's sort of the way I think. Some mates from HS days would have called that "onter logic" when they were making fun of me. <Odd how we celebrate Independence Day . . .> Very sporting of you to celebrate half of your old empire breaking away with us |
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Jul-04-11
| | Once: We have given away so much of our former empire that it has become something of a national pastime. Monday. Woke at 7. Had tea. Gave away a former colony. Lunch. Watched England lose at cricket to another former colony. Supper. And so to bed. |
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Jul-04-11
| | Domdaniel: <Once> You make the removal of colonies - colondectomy? - sound like *charity* for the deserving poor. "Oh, I say, look - a poor, starving American/ Indian/ Irish person. Here, old chap, have one of my colonies - mind you don't drink it away, now." In fact the process is more like a *mugging*.
Whack.
- Gimme!
"I say, careful where you point that ... ouch! Yarooh!"
*shouts after receding colonial back*
"Blighter! After all we did for you! Really, these people are impossible". |
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| Jul-04-11 | | VincentL: <Once: I think I have worked it out. CG.com have noticed that we've been getting better and better at these puzzles. So they have started mixing cryptic clues along with the chess. To make it a bit more of a challenge> About one year ago I looked back at all the puzzles during one week from about 4 years earlier - so some time in mid 2006. I used <dzechiel>´s posts to locate the puzzles. I actually thought they were a litte more difficult. I recall the Monday & Tuesday puzzles involving 3 or 4 move mates or winning sequences, and as I remember no kibitzer made much progress with the Sunday puzzle. I don´t know whether anyone has carried out a similar exercise. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | PinnedPiece: Monday Time Goal: 30 sec
After fast scan, within 10 sec I had decided that a rook sac at h7 (24. Rxh7) could not be defended. another 5 sec to confirm nothing could stop Mrs. White King. Total time: 15 sec. Result: Resounding, booming, Quick-fuse exploding success. . |
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| Jul-04-11 | | wals: Rybka 4 x 64
23...Rd8, +#2, Blacks final move.
Best
1. = (0.00): 23...g5 24.Nh5 g4 25.Rg3 Bh4 26.Rd1 Bxg3 27.hxg3 Rd8 28.Nf6 Rg6 29.Nh5 Bc6 30.Bc3 Rxd1+ 31.Qxd1 Bd5 32.Nxa5 Qxa5 33.Bxd5 exd5 34.e6+ Kg8 35.e7 Qa8 36.Bxb4 cxb4 37.Nf4 Ne6 38.Qxd5[] Qc8[] 2.  (0.53): 23...g6 24.Rc3 Rd8 25.Rd1 g5 26.Nh5 g4 27.Nf6 Rg6 28.Bb5 Bc6 29.Nh5 Be4 30.Nf4 Rg7 31.Rdc1 Na2 32.Rxc5 Nxc1 33.Rxc1 Ng6 34.Nxg6+ Two routes for White,
1.  (#2): 24.Rxh7+ Nxh7 25.Ng6#[]
2. (#3): 24.Ng6+ Nxg6 25.Rxh7+[] Kxh7 26.Qh5#[] |
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| Jul-04-11 | | MaczynskiPratten: I enjoyed this subtle variation on the smothered mate. It looks as if Memeti did not see this coming at all, probably because he thought h7 was well protected. Otherwise he could simply have swapped White's Knight with Nxd3 on the 21st/22nd move before it could get to f4 and do all the damage. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | DarthStapler: Got it easily |
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Jul-04-11
 | | NM JRousselle: What Black in time trouble? It's very difficult to believe a player of master strength missed the threatened mate. 23... Rd8?? is clearly a lemon. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | kingfu: I know that the rating difference is 400 points.
I still do not like The Guimard French because it blocks the c pawn. Black needs to be able to castle away from the attack. With the d5 and e6 pawns and both bishops behind those pawns, it make defense of the King Side difficult. He castled into "it". |
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Jul-05-11
 | | kevin86: black must choose the way he's mated.:
♘xh7 ♘g6# smothered
♔xh7 ♕h5# openfaced. |
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| Jul-06-11 | | kingfu: I do not want to GET kingfu, I want to BE kingfu. |
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