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Francois Philidor vs George Atwood
London (1795) (unorthodox), ?, Feb-13
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Jul-27-10  goodevans: Did repetition of position count as a draw back in 1795? If so, Philidor should have settled for the draw on move 10. <10 Qf3> was ridiculously optimistic.
Nov-15-10  oldneuro: Why not <14 Qe5>?
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  Phony Benoni: <oldneuro> Black just takes the queen with 14...Qxe5; the White knight is pinned.
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  kevin86: Repetition of position requires THREE occurrances,not two.

A rare loss for Philador.

Dec-13-12  faulenzer: Also, 10. ♘d6+ does not repeat the position after white's 8th. In the position after 10. ♘d6+, white has lost castling rights, which makes it a different position for the purposes of considering repetitions.
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  kevin86: <faulenzer>you are correct,a change in castling status is as permanent a change as a pawn move or capture-so the position is NOT repeated,as the king has moved.
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  perfidious: Any change in the dynamic elements of a position constitutes a difference in the position; moreover, the same player must be on move all three times the position has been (or in the third instance, will be) repeated.

For a classic misinterpretation of the rule by a putative claimant, see White's note to his 78th move in Keene vs P H Donoso Velasco, 1976.

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