Oct-29-09
 | | Phony Benoni: OK. Let's end the suspense right now. A better pun would have been, "The Last Days of Pompei". |
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| Oct-29-09 | | lildemonsc: Phony Benoni, they should put you on the payroll.
I can't claim to be an expert, or good at all for that matter, but a very nice game by white. |
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Oct-29-09
 | | chessgames.com: If you think you can do better, by all means, use the Pun Submission Page! |
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| Oct-29-09 | | DeepFriedLiver: Nice tactics by white. From move 11-14, white protects the knight on d5 first by threatening to pin the black queen to the king, then by threatening discovered check. At move 15, sacrificing the exchange on d4 gives white a ferocious attack. Black must play 16...Kc8 or else: 16...Ka8?? 17. Nb6+ axb6 18 Qa4#. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | RandomVisitor: 12...b5, 13...b5 and 14...Ne7 are suggested improvements for black. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | RandomVisitor: 4 minutes per move:
Martin - Pompei
[C45]
Rapperswil, Switzerland Rapperswil, Switzerland, 1955 [Rybka 3 ]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bc5 5.0-0 d6 6.c3 dxc3 7.Nxc3 Be6 8.Nd5 Qd7 9.a3 Ne5 10.Nxe5 dxe5 11.Qb3 c6 12.Rd1 last book move 12...Bd4 -0.11/19
[Rybka 3 : 12...b5 13.Bf1 Ne7 14.Qc2 Bxf2+ 15.Qxf2 cxd5 16.Qg3 0-0 17.Qxe5 Rfe8 18.Qd4 Qb7 19.exd5 Bxd5 20.Be3 a6 21.Bf2 Rac8 22.Rac1 Rcd8 23.a4 bxa4 -0.49/19 ] 13.Be3 -0.11/19 0-0-0  0.87/18
[Rybka 3 : 13...b5 14.Be2 Ne7 15.Bxd4 exd4 16.Qb4 a5 17.Qc5 Qa7 18.Qxa7 Rxa7 19.Nxe7 Kxe7 20.Rxd4 c5 21.Rd2 c4 22.f4 Rd7 23.Rxd7+ Bxd7 24.Kf2 Rc8 25.Rc1 g6 26.Ke3 h5 27.Rc2 Be6 28.Rc1= -0.11/19 ] 14.Rac1  0.39/18
[Rybka 3 : 14.Bxd4 exd4 15.Rxd4 cxd5 16.Ba6 Kb8 17.Rb4 b6 18.Rxb6+ axb6 19.Qxb6+ Ka8 20.Bb5 Ne7 21.Bxd7 Rxd7 22.Qa5+ Kb7 23.Qb5+ Ka8 24.exd5 Nxd5 0.87/18 ] 14...Kb8?  2.49/20
[Rybka 3 : 14...Ne7 15.Bxd4 exd4 16.Rxd4 cxd5 17.Bb5+ Nc6 18.Rb4 Qc7 19.Rxc6 bxc6 20.Ba6+ Kd7 21.Rb7 Rb8 22.Rxc7+ Kxc7 23.Qg3+ Kb6 24.Be2 g6 25.Qe3+ Kb7 26.e5 Rhd8 27.Qd4 a5 28.f4 h5 29.Qc5 Ra8 0.39/18 ] 15.Rxd4 2.37/19 exd4? 11.18/13
[Rybka 3 : 15...cxd5 16.exd5 exd4 17.Bf4+ Ka8 18.dxe6 Qc6 19.exf7 Nh6 20.Be6 Qb6 21.Qxb6 axb6 2.37/19 ] 16.Bf4+ 10.36/14 Kc8 10.92/14
17.Qa4 7.54/12 Bxd5 9.24/13
18.exd5 8.43/13 Qg4 6.60/11
19.g3? 9.30/14
[Rybka 3 : 19.Ba6 Kd7 6.60/11 ]
19...Ne7 11.41/13
20.dxc6 9.73/16 Nxc6 7.85/13
21.Ba6 7.12/13 1-0 |
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| Oct-29-09 | | Julian713: I rather like the pun. The d5 square during moves 13-14 is like a volcano ready to erupt in the middle of the board...not only does white occupy it with a knight and have 3 pieces supporting, black is attacking with 4! And when it does erupt, Pompeii is on the losing end...again! |
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Oct-29-09
 | | Benzol: Barden and Heidenfeld recommend 12...Qc8 as better.
They also suggest an alternate line at Black's 15th move. 15...cxd5 16.exd5 exd4 17.Bf4+ Ka8 18.dxe6 fxe6 19.Bxe6 Q moves and 20.Rc7 |
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| Oct-29-09 | | Humbertopt: Why black went to castle queenside in move 13? This doesn´t make sense to me. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | desiobu: Interesting that in all the improvements for black he has to give up castling queenside which I guess he wasn't prepared to do. Also I don't think 14...Kb8 is really urgent despite Rc1 (not to mention it allows the Rxd4 tactic for white getting the dark bishop to a nice diagonal). |
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Oct-29-09
 | | kevin86: The keystone,black's knight will fall and the game,as well. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | Chessmensch: See the posts under Martin's absent bio for an explanation of who/what he is. But, what's a Pompei? |
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| Oct-29-09 | | 17.Bxg7: <But, what's a Pompei?> This is taken for wikipedia, just to save the effort in explaining it: Pompeii is a ruined and partially buried Roman town-city near modern Naples in the Italian region of Campania, in the territory of the comune of Pompei. Along with Herculaneum, its sister city, Pompeii was destroyed, and completely buried, during a long catastrophic eruption of the volcano Mount Vesuvius spanning two days in AD 79. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | Chessmensch: I'm well aware what Pompeii-- with two i's (the ruins) is and also Pompei-- with one i (the city). But, what is the chess Pompei? |
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| Oct-29-09 | | WhiteRook48: Ba6 was the eruption |
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| Oct-29-09 | | ROO.BOOKAROO: I'm still intrigued if anybody makes use of the long analyses presented by RandomVisitor, and how? Am I missing something instructive and memorable by simply ignoring them and going straight to the other comments on effective moves? Am perplexed if deciphering this kind of stuff improves our brain circuits in getting a good grasp on tactics and strategies of the game itself. |
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Oct-29-09
 | | tamar: <ROO.BOOKAROO> Of all the people on chessgames to criticize, <RandomVisitor> deserves it the least. He has been invaluable in our collective games, because he thoroughly analyzes every possibility. I don't think our opponents realized we had a member with such industry and persistence. Do I go through it all? No, but that says more about my laziness than him. Such analyses can best be used when you have a particular question about
alternatives. They are like a ready made reference book for each game he posts to. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | TheaN: <ROO.BOOKAROO>
Don't try to make your point on as many games as possible, it's a bit lame, especially for RV. Although his long analyzed lines are not the easiest ones to go through, his values are the most important part of it, and clearly instructive (how is the losing side at a particular point, drawing or even ahead?). |
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Oct-29-09
 | | patzer2: <ROO.BOOKAROO> Several posters indicated in response to your Oct 27 post at T Hillarp Persson vs I Sokolov, 2009 that they find the analyis by <RV> useful, especially in determining where a game was won or lost. Bobby Fischer analyzed literally thousands of games to find those critical points to improve his game. I suggest use of <RV's> posts for the same purpose can improve the play and analysis of just about anyone using them. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | AugustAle: Everyday: Thank You to RV, YR, DZ, JLS, so many others... Gratefull, greatly appreciative and honestly happy to enjoy these jewels.
Long or short (or even really, really long), my only retort is .... THANKYOO! Here's a Scotchish that hits the spotsish:
Euwe vs J O'Hanlon, 1919
Finally....20.Qh7+
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| Oct-30-09 | | RandomVisitor: After 12.Rd1:
1: Martin - Pompei, Rapperswil, Switzerland 1955
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 : <22-ply> <1. (-0.53): 12...b5> 13.Bf1 Ne7 14.Qc2 Bxf2+ 15.Qxf2 cxd5 16.Qg3 0-0 17.Qxe5 Rfe8 18.Qd4 Bg4 19.Rd3 Rad8 20.h3 Be6 21.Rg3 Ng6 22.e5 a6 23.a4 bxa4 24.Rxa4 Qc7 25.Rc3 Qxe5 26.Bxa6 f6 27.Re3 Qxd4 2. (-0.04): 12...Bd4 13.Be3 b5 14.Be2 Ne7 15.Bxd4 exd4 16.Qb4 a5 17.Qc5 Qa7 18.Qxa7 Rxa7 19.Nxe7 Kxe7 20.Rxd4 c5 21.Rd2 c4 22.f4 Rd7 23.Rxd7+ Bxd7 24.Kf2 Rc8 25.Rc1 Be6 26.Ke3 f6 27.h4 g6 |
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| Oct-30-09 | | RandomVisitor: After 12...b5, black is prepared to sacrifice the queen after 13.Nf6+ Nxf6 14.Rxd7 Bxc4 |
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| Jul-10-10 | | ROO.BOOKAROO: I agree with the kind comments. However, my question remains: how do readers effectively use these computer analyses? Such lengthy post mortems are valuable, and do help in analyzing turning points, but do they improve our live brain power when playing on the board without any help from an engine? Bobby Fischer didn't use those computer programs, but his own brain power, which got a lot of exercise. I personally don't ambition to emulate Fischer, and I doubt any of the Chessgames enthusiasts does either. At our level, it's fun and brain exercise. Professional analysts, Raymond Keene, or Graham Burgess for instance, at best become writers of books and articles and make money. Others teach or create Web sites. Professional players develop their own brain circuits and keep exercising them from an early age. So for all of us, it's too late. We're here for the fun and the mental challenge. No more. And the kibitzing of course, which is the only social dimension here. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 15.Rxd4