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Natalija Pogonina vs Corinne Roelli
EU-ch U14 Girls (1998), Mureck, rd 6, Jul-08
Sicilian Defense: Kan. Modern Variation (B42)  ·  1-0



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Sep-11-12  Abulherar: 27.Rxd7+! Bxd7 28.Bxf6+! Kc7 29.Bxb2 1-0
but i think that 29.Bxd7 also works.
Sep-11-12  stacase: White's Bishop dearly wants to take the f6 Pawn to say check and fork both Rooks. Black's Knight guards the f6 Pawn. So take the Knight and say check at the same time. Looks like a winner to me! Black's Bishop is forced to take the Rook and now after White's Bishop takes the f6 Pawn all of Black's pieces are under attack including his King! After Black's King moves out of check it's merely a choice of which one to take first.

Choices choices choices!

Sep-11-12  whiteshark: It's no physical impossibility.
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  scormus: <sevenseaman: Delhi/Agra ..... a ploy to capture attention>

Neat, reminds me of a colleague ....

After yesterday's wild goose chase I thought I'd keep it simple today, so went with the efficient 27 Bxd7. But I completely missed <28 Bxb2!!>

Sep-11-12  francis2012: So the move 27. ♖xd7+! is better than 27. ♖xc8+ but still White is winning :)
Sep-11-12  JG27Pyth: What the hell is wrong with Bxf6+ ? Nxf6 is forced,right? and then Rxc8#.

I must be totally blind because this looks like it works to me... what am I missing?

Sep-11-12  JG27Pyth: Roflmao... of course instantly after I post I see the little problem with the hanging rook!
Sep-11-12  zb2cr: 27. Rxd7+, Bxd7; 28. Bxf6+, Kc7; 29. Bxb2 leaves White ahead by B+P. White's Bishop may be hanging, but so is Black's Rook.
Sep-11-12  LoveThatJoker: Rock on! A <Natalia> puzzle!

27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28. Bxf6+ Kc8/...Kc7 29. Bxb2


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  gawain: "Easy"--but I got it wrong. I thought I saw a checkmate with 27 Bxf6 Nxf6 28 Rxc8# but failed to notice that the c7 rook was hanging. Pogonina's win of material is quite nice though.

...I see I was not the only kibitzer struck by chess blindness!

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  scormus: <Gawain 27 Bxf6+ Nxf6 28 Rxc8#> aesthetically, the way it ought to have been. I had to look a 2nd time to make sure the Rc7 wasnt protected
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  agb2002: White has the bishop pair for a bishop and a knight.

Black threatens 27... Kxc7 and 27... fxg5.

The knight prevents the triple fork Bxf6+, therefore, 27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Bxf6+

A) 28... Kc7 29.Bxb2 Rf8 (29... Rb8 30.Be5+ + -) 30.Bxh7 + -.

B) 28... Kc8 29.Bxb2 Rf8 30.Bxh7 + -.


Another option is 27.Rxc8+ Kxc8 28.Bxf6 (28.Bxd7+ Kxd7 29.Bxf6 Rhb8 30.Bxb2 Rxb2 31.Ra1 +/ -) 28... Rf8 29.Bxd7+ Kxd7 30.Bxb2 + -.

Sep-11-12  James D Flynn: Material is equal but White has a R and a B en prise, therefore a tactical solution is required. Candidates Rxd7+, Rxc8+, Bxf6+. 27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Bxf6+ Kc7 29.Rc1+ Kb7(if Kd6 30.Bxb2 Rb8 31.Ba3+ Ke5 32.Bxd7 and White is 2 Bs and a P up) 30.Bxh8(not Bxb2 Rd8 and White is only one piece up) Rxa2 31.Bxd7 and White is 2 Bs up. 27.Rxc8+ Kxc8 28.Bxf6 Rxf2( if Rf8 29.Bxd7+ Kxd7 30.Bxb2 and White is a B and P up) 28.Bxd7+ Kxd7 Bxh8 and White is a piece up. 27.Bxf6+ Kxc7(not Nxf6 28.Rxc8#) 28.Rc1+ Kb8 29.Bxh8 Rxa2 30.Be5+(if Bxd7 Bxd7 31.Be5+ Ka8 and we have an even endgame) Nxe5 31.Rxc8+ Kb7 32.g4 and Whites B and united K side pawns offer slightly better chances in the endgame than Blacks N and isolated pawns.
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  chrisowen: Castle admirers right rookb2 and rh8 i no delves part I c7 rook duskier, in good queend4 d5s off tendril late changes in starts combination leading to free rc7 in f5 cleaning broad path age bg5+ live feed domino effect exf6+ a slice re1 draw parallel it brings up rook it d7+ in baggage the knight readdress it three way split pin f6 low and double you ar f6 hammer h8 plus b2 see wins a piece of cake in punting rookxd7+ off this capital one in together.
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  chrisowen: Bishops a rich clothing h8 b2 escry in light selection terrific range h8 or demander in b2 rook as be another scalp for NP to rack up on you feel Roelli bid angle queen b6 instead knight remains alive round plodding sowing rook b8 debatable string up ply qd5 would give white a mind big edge i shape in prune f1 rock in d7 serve a lolly.
Sep-11-12  Crispy Seagull: Mine was not the game continuation, but I spotted a different way to win a bishop. It's not as good however, since it leaves a rook on the seventh and drops a pawn, leaving White up just a bishop instead of a bishop AND a pawn.

27. Rxc8+ Kxc8
28. Bxd7+ Kxd7
29. Bxf6

At which point presumably Black would scoop up that pawn on a2 and White would take on h8. Not as good but I think still winning.

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  kevin86: White gives up the exchange for the pleasure of forking BOTH rooks and the king with the bishop.
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  Oxspawn: I understand the purpose of chess is to win a bishop, so I would play

<27 Rxd7 Bxd7
28 Bxf6+ Kc8 (or c7)
28 Bxd7 Rxa2
29 BxR (h8) KxB>

I think that leaves white with a rook and bishop and three pawns against a rook and three pawns. I expect someone (everyone?) else is going to find a mate for white, but this week, surely bishops rank higher.

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  Oxspawn: Oh good. Today, just a pawn worse than everyone else. It's just me and Andy Murray celebrating today then.
Sep-11-12  rapidcitychess: Honestly, I can't think of too much to say, other than to check the box.

Got it!

Sep-11-12  QueenMe: Wow - could have sworn I already posted about this game. Oh well, almost too late now. Except perhaps to mention the case for taking the rook at b2. That's the way to go because it instantly frees up White's rook from defending against a back-rank mate. In particular, it also immediately threatens pinning Black's bishop with ♖e7, and Black has no viable single-move defense against that and the one still aimed at his remaining rook at h8. Black's only reasonable choices at this point are ... ♖d8 and ... ♖e8, and both offer White the option of making further exchanges, which at this point in the game will only amplify White's advantage. So White will surely get the h-pawn as well, giving him a whopping 3-in-a-row passed pawns. He's going to win.
Sep-11-12  Abdel Irada: <QueenMe>: <He's going to win.>

Have a look at the picture of Natalia Pogonina at the top of this page. Does she *look* like a "he"? ;-)

Sep-11-12  Moonwalker: Must be the week of moderate gains!
Sep-11-12  Gambit All: Nice game to spotlight. I can learn a lot more from talented kids' games where the winner stoically builds up a 5-6 move finishing combination then Super GM games with a lot of nuance that's over me.
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  Natalia Pogonina: Oldie :)
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