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Georgy Lisitsin vs Viktor Goglidze
USSR Championship (1933), Leningrad URS, rd 16, Sep-04
Semi-Slav Defense: Stoltz Variation (D45)  ·  1-0

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Dec-18-09  ughaibu: A small collection of un-kibitzed and surprisingly modern games won by Lisitsin:

Lisitsin vs N Sorokin, 1933

Lisitsin vs Alatortsev, 1933

Lisitsin vs Panov, 1934

Lisitsin vs Veresov, 1934

Lisitsin vs V Mikenas, 1944

Lisitsin vs Tolush, 1944

Korchnoi vs Lisitsin, 1954

Taimanov vs Lisitsin, 1954

Lisitsin vs M Mukhitdinov, 1955

Dec-26-09
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  Domdaniel: Good list, <ugh>. Of course, un-kibitzed does not necessarily mean unobserved.

In Lisitsin's eponymous gambit, 1.Nf3 f5 2.e4, his name is often spelled Lisitsyn. Is there a good argument for the correctness of either version?

Dec-26-09  ughaibu: There's some discussion about the spelling here: Lisitsin vs Tal, 1954 (I haven't read it).
Mar-14-21
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Oh well, another Sunday flubbed, and only 3/7 for the week. That happens when you forget that the Rook exists.
Mar-14-21
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  al wazir: There are two forms of the letter 'i' in Russian, written and pronounced differently: 'и' and 'ы'. They are usually transliterated as 'i' and 'y', respectively.

In Russian orthography the version of 'i' that follows letter 'ц' ('ts') is usually 'и' rather than 'ы', although it is sounded as if it was 'ы'. (Don't ask.) However, this name is spelled Лисицын.

Both spelling and pronunciation suggest that we should prefer Lisitsyn.

Mar-14-21  mel gibson: I saw that straight away.
20. Rg1 and then the threat is that
the White Queen will join in with the fun
on g6 as the pawn on f7 is pinned.
The pawn on h6 is also a target as the
pawn on g7 will be pinned.
Black is in a hopeless situation.

Stockfish 13 says:

20. Rg1

(20.Rg1 (♖a1-g1 ♘f6-d5 ♘c3xd5 ♘b6xd5 ♕c2-e4 f7-f5 ♕e4xd5+ ♕d8xd5 ♗b3xd5+ ♔g8-h7 ♗d5xa8 ♖f8xa8 ♘e5-c6 ♗e7-f8 d4-d5 ♖a8-c8 ♗b2-e5 g7-g5 f4xg5 h6xg5 ♖g1xg5 a6-a5 ♖g5xf5 a5-a4 ♖f5-f7+ ♔h7-g6 ♖f7-f6+ ♔g6-g7 ♘c6xb4 ♖c8-e8 f3-f4 ♗f8xb4 ♖f6-b6+ ♔g7-f7 ♖b6xb4 ♖e8-d8 e3-e4 ♖d8-a8 ♔h1-g2 a4-a3 ♔g2-f3 ♔f7-f8 d5-d6 ♖a8-a7) +9.26/39 193)

score for White +9.26 depth 39

Mar-14-21  Walter Glattke: 20.Qg6 Qe8 21.Rg1 Nh5 22.Qxh5 Kh8 23.Nxf 257+ Rxf7 24.Bxf7 Qf8 25.d5 bxc3!? 26.Bxc3 Bf6 27.Bxf6 netter than 27.Qxh6+ - 27.-gxf6 28.Rg8+ Qxg8 29.Bxg8 Kxg8 30.d6 Kh7 31.Qf7+ Kh8 32.d7 20.Ng6 bxc3 21.Qg2 cxb2 22.Nxe7+ Kh8 23.Rg1 Rg8 24.Nxg8 Qxg8 25.Qxb2 wins / 22.-Qxe7 23.Rg1 Nh5 24.Qg6 Qh4 25.Qxh6!? b1Q Play 20.Rg1 bxc3? 21.Rxg7+ Kxg7 22..Qg6+ Kh8 23.Qxh6+ Kg8 24.Ng6 Nh7 25.Bxc3
Mar-14-21
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  agb2002: White has a bishop and a pawn for a rook.

Black threatens bxc3.

A quick scan yields lines like 20.Qg6 Nbd5 21.Nxd5 fxg6 22.Nxf6+ Kh8 23.Nxg6# or 20... bxc3 21.Rg1 Nh5 22.Qxh5 cxb2 23.Bxf7+ Kh8 24.Ng6+ Kh7 25.Qf5 Rxf7 26.Nf8+ Kg8 27.Qh7+ Kf8 28.Qh8#.

These details suggest Qg6 and Rg1 (Ne4 allows Black to clear f6 with tempo and defend g7 with either Bf6 o Qf6).

After 20.Qg6 Nbd5 21.Nxd5 Black can play 21... Nxd5 and the queen is forced to waste a tempo so probably 20.Rg1 is stronger (if 20... bxc3 21.Qg6 transposes to lines like the second above).

Mar-14-21
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  murkia: There is a splendid pianist, Valentina Lisitsa (possibly the feminine version of Lisitsin) who would perhaps be better known if she preferred Steinway to Bösendorfer instead of the other way round.
Mar-14-21  Refused: The black king is under threat. Ideally I'd like to get in Qg6 and Rg1.

The immediate 20.Qg6 doesn't seem to work (or at least I failed to see how) after Black clogs the a2-g8 Diagonal with a night on Nd5. Which leaves the queen hanging. There's gotta be a better way.

So let's switch the move order

20.Rg1
a)20...Nxd5 21.Nxd5 Nxd5 22.Qe4 +-
b)20...Ne8 21.Nxf7 Rxf7 22.Qg6 +-
c)20...Nh5 21.Qg6+- This is just not surivalable.

Mar-14-21  lentil: why not 25 Rg6, instead of waiting until move 26?
Mar-14-21
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  chrisowen: Better to grab one of the footmen lentil.

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Mar-14-21
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  Fusilli: <lentil: why not 25 Rg6, instead of waiting until move 26?>

I think it's because of 25...Qf8 and 26.Ba3 meets c2, complicating.

If 26...Qf8, 27.Bb4 is a killer.

Mar-14-21  RandomVisitor: Top 3 moves: 20.Rg1 better than the rest...


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Stockfish_21031012_x64_modern:

<50/68 2:30:45 +11.17 20.Rg1 Nfd5> 21.Nxd5 Nxd5 22.Qe4 a5 23.Bxd5 Ra6 24.Bc4 Rd6 25.d5 f5 26.Qc2 Qe8 27.Nc6 Bf6 28.Be5 Rd7 29.d6+ Kh8 30.Bb3 g6

<50/81 2:30:45 +7.90 20.Qg6> Nbd5 21.Nxd5 Nxd5 22.Qe4 Nf6 23.Qf5 Qe8 24.Qg6 Kh8 25.Nxf7+ Rxf7 26.Bxf7 Qc8 27.Rc1 Qh3 28.Qg3 Qxg3 29.hxg3 Rf8 30.Bb3 a5

<50/69 2:30:45 +6.18 20.Ne4> a5 21.Rg1 a4 22.Qg2 Ne8 23.Nc6 axb3 24.Nxd8 Bxd8 25.axb3 Nd5 26.Bc1 Nc3 27.Nc5 Kh7 28.Nd3 Be7 29.e4 Rg8 30.f5 Ra1

Mar-14-21  petemccabe: I kept looking for an "insane" move, and couldn't find anything. So I said to myself, well, what would I have played in this position, anyway? Not an insane move, just an ordinary move.

I chose Rg1. So I guess I got it, but I don't understand why it's insane.

Mar-15-21
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  maytintan: in the game line things complicate after: 22......Nd5, 23. Qxh6 Bg5, 24. Rxg5 Qxg5, 25.Qxg5 cxb2 but 22.Bxc3 instead of Qxh5 should win

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