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| Jun-09-09 | | solskytz: Just in answering Lamine, your post about being encouraged that a 2655 can blunder like a simple player, reminds me of a proverb which I'm surely misquoting - something to the effect that the eagle can swoop low, but a hen can't fly up to the mountains :-)
The real encouragement is probably that in chess and life, the 'hen' can learn and practice, and become more and more 'eagle' |
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| Jun-09-09 | | johnlspouge: Tuesday (Easy):
Ye Rongguang vs Van Wely, 1997 (8.?) White to play and win.
Material: Even. The Black Kg8 has 1 legal move. The White Bc4 pins Pf7 to Kg8. The Black Ra8 is loose, and if Bc4-d5 without capture, it is lost. The Black Nf6 is therefore burdened with protection of d5. The White Ke8 is secured from all checks. Candidates (8.): Bxf6
8.Bxf6 (remove the defender of d5)
(1) Black can introduce a different defender of d5:
8…d5 9.Bxg7
White is now up B+N, and Black can recapture at most one piece, either Bc4 or Bg7. (2) 8…Bxf6 [or exf6] 9.Bd5
White picks up Ra8 at no cost, unless Black throws Nb8-c6 or Bc8-d7 in the way and drops a different piece. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | goodevans: There's some irony in the fact that rather than resign immediately, as many players would have done, Van Wely chose to resign at the point where he could have won back a good chunk of the lost material. However, in order to win the material back he would have had to allow simplification into a hopelessly lost endgame. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | Marmot PFL: Was this a sac or did black just overloek bxf6 and bd5? |
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| Jun-09-09 | | Patriot: Initial candidates: Bxf7+,Bxf6,Bd5,e4,O-O
Thought process:
If there isn't anything winning by force, then perhaps 8.e4 or 8.O-O. A) 8.Bxf7+ and either 8...Kxf7 or 8...Rxf7. This looks winning for black. B) 8.Bxf6 and either 8...exf6 or 8...Bxf6. There had better be a good reason to give up the bishop pair without provocation. C) 8.Bd5 hits the rook but is taken with 8...Nxd5.
Aha! 8.Bxf6 Bxf6 9.Bd5 and it looks like black is losing a piece. I don't see a good defense, so 8.Bxf6 is the move. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | randomsac: Seems to me that
8 Bxf6...Bxf6
9 Bd5 wins the rook (or at least the exchange)
I just wish that all openings were this easy. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | Eduardo Leon: <randomsac>
8. Bxf6 Bxf6 9. Bd5
a) 9. ... Nc6 10. Bxc6
b) 9. ... Ba6 10. Bxa8 d5 11. c4
If white wins only an exchange, there must be a mistake in the process. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | lightbishop c5e6: I can't believe it! It was so simple that I missed it! Iwas always considering 8. Bxf6! Bxf6 but I was so caught up in searching a sac that could work that I missed the ridiculously obvious 9. Bd5, winning the rook. I need my brain checked. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | awfulhangover: Lost Boys Crown 1997! |
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| Jun-09-09 | | njchess: Not much of a puzzle; could easily be a Monday puzzle. Got it quickly. A strange game from Van Wely. White plays the Torre opening, a solid and easy to learn opening for White which usually causes Black few problems, though Black must avoid playing too casually, as in this case. Black opens with the Kings Indian Defense. In the KID, Black attacks the center via e5 or c5. Often, he will play Nbd7 and fianchetto his queenside bishop, or play Nc6 and let his bishop roam the c8-h3 diagonal. White plays 6. Bc4 developing the bishop. This move isn't that accurate as it leaves the bishop open to an easy attack. More common is Bd3. Black commits by playing 6. ... c5. Already behind in development, Van Wely is counting on his early castling to give him time to make up for his lack of development. Nbd7 is also a reasonable choice leaving open the possibility of e5 or c5. With 7. c3, White foregoes opening up the position in favor of a solid pawn structure similar to the Colle Opening. The differences between this position and the Colle are that White's bishops are more actively placed and he hasn't castled. Obviously, 7. ... b6?? is an example of Black playing too casually. Besides a lack of alertness on Black's part, this move represents the fourth pawn move for Black, another red flag for Van Wely. Ironically, it was probably White's previous passive pawn move that lulled Van Wely into this seemingly sound, innocuous blunder. Nbd7 or even Nc6 would have been better. The rest is trivial. |
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Jun-09-09
 | | kevin86: Another easy one. The weak defense of the avenue leading to the poor rook dooms the loser here. White only needs to remove the guard of d5,the knight. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | YouRang: Nice to see a game by my Chinese counterpart: Ye Rongguang ;-) Anyway, yes, easy. Not seeing any good king attack chances, I looked around for vulnerable pieces, and then that rook on a8 started flashing. Sure: (1) get rid of the defender, (2) attack the rook, (3) watch Van Wely turn red. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | MiCrooks: Van Wely plays on trying to trap the Bishop or keep the King in the middle and somehow mate White a Rook down. Neither are reasonable hopes. Weird thing to me is White playing Nxc4. Sure it is still easily winning, and perhaps it was along the lines of "will you just resign - see I can even play THIS and still have you beat!". Nxd4 Qxd4 Qc2 is simply better. Your Bishop is safe, Black has problems maintaining the two pawns he has for the Rook. He can just as easily resign. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | mworld: <YouRang: Nice to see a game by my Chinese counterpart: Ye Rongguang ;-)> that one made me lol |
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| Jun-09-09 | | hedgeh0g: I recognised this game. I remember a Van Wely blunder involving the typical queen-pawn opening h1-a8 diagonal trap, so this wasn't hard to find at all. |
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Jun-09-09
 | | Domdaniel: <YouRang> I won't bring up the hideous old joke about the absence of a Beijing telephone book -- you might Wing the Wong number. Oops. Still, while I'm at it I should add "Write to me, please - the West Wing". Remember to watch out for the different tones in Chinese -- you might think you're answering the phone politely, but you're really saying "Your bishop smells of fish" or "the capitalist road is littered with lost pawns" or even "three armpits, please". I advise against the latter in restaurants. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | swordfish: Incredible that a player of Van Wely's stature should lose like this. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | YouRang: <DomDaniel> Oh, I would hate to make an embarrassing translation error like that. That's why I always consult my trusty Chinese-English phrasebook. For example: Ai Bang Mai Ne = "I bumped into the coffee table"
Chin Tu Fat = "I'm going to get a face lift"
Wan Bum Lung = "I have Tuberculosis"
Wai So Dim = "Are you trying to save electricity?"
(with apologies) |
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| Jun-09-09 | | Riverbeast: I'm guessing Van Wely turned off his brain when he played 7...b6, thinking he was still in opening theory. ...b6 is often played in the Bf4 variation...Obviously here, with the bishop on g5, it meets with an elementary two move win |
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| Jun-09-09 | | ruzon: The only pieces that are undefended at the beginning of the game are the Rooks. Like children, you must protect them until they can move on their own. |
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| Jun-09-09 | | YouRang: <Like children, you must protect them until they can move on their own.> ?! |
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| Jun-09-09 | | WhiteRook48: This was so easy!! |
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| Jun-09-09 | | DarthStapler: Got it |
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| Jun-09-09 | | Poohblah: 8. Bxf6 followed by 9. Bd5 winning a piece due to the immobile Rook. |
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Jun-10-09
| | Domdaniel: <Like children, you must protect them until they can move on their own.> It's when they start moving on their own that the trouble really begins. I suppose castling *is* a little bit like a game of leapfrog, but what kid was ever satisfied to play a game just once? "Noooo! Wanna jump over king AGAIN!!" |
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