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Robert James Fischer vs Donn Rogosin
Simul, 50b (1964) (exhibition), Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA USA, Apr-12
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  0-1



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Aug-08-09  Xeroxx: 23. a4 is a better idea.
Nov-15-09  DaveyL: Interesting that this is the only game in the database with this position after 14. ... Bb7.

I had Shredder 4 play a shootout and it went through with the queen sac. I then looked up this line to see if it'd ever been played.

The engines deviated with 17. ... Rfd8 and 18. Ne2 and white won in 60-odd moves.

Nov-15-09  andrewjsacks: My game was the one to Donn's right. I drew and so did another junior player named Nicholas Enequist. Out of the 50 boards, these three junior players were the only ones who scored against Fischer, in his +47 -1 =2 performance in Hollywood at the Knickerbocker Hotel.
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  Phony Benoni: <andrewjsacks> Just out of curiosity, do you remember if Donn Rogosin was related to H Rogosin?
Nov-15-09  andrewjsacks: Hy (Hyman) was his father. A low-rated Master in the 30's and 40's, he lost a famous short game to Frank J. Marshall in 1940, a game in which Rogosin could have resigned before Marshall moved a single piece (in the Sicilian Wing Gambit). The game is published here and there, and is probably in this database.
Nov-15-09  andrewjsacks: Oops. Right. That H Rogosin here is certainly the one, Donn's father. He was a psychologist by profession and went on playing in tournament chess well into the 1960s and perhaps even early '70s despite a sizable rating drop. Very nice man.
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  Phony Benoni: <andrewjsacks> Thanks. I had the pleasure of meeting Hy at the 1983 US Open in Pasadena; the story is here, on the page devoted to the famous game you mentioned: Marshall vs H Rogosin, 1940
Nov-15-09  andrewjsacks: Cute story, Phony Benoni. I like it. Thank you.
Nov-15-09  andrewjsacks: By the way, Phony, good game against John Patty. Someone should get the powers that be here to reverse the name in correction--he was certainly not a woman. He played for years here in Southern California, you know. Another psychologist, as well, interestingly.
Nov-16-09  TheFocus: <andrewjsacks> Recently read your article about that Fischer exhibition. Did you ever analyze that game for printing?

If not, why not analyze it here at CG. Let us have your insights.

Nov-16-09  andrewjsacks: TheFocus, thank you. Yes, that is one of the California chess history articles I wrote for, a very fine site in many ways, and certainly the definitive one for the history of chess in our state. I am proud of that game because it was evenly contested--not one of those simul draws or losses because the GM committed a fatigue-induced blunder. I must consider your kind suggestion.
Nov-16-09  TheFocus: <andrewjsacks> I recently talked with IM John Donaldson and he said he was going to publish a revised edition of "A Legend on the Road." May I suggest that you also submit the article and game annotations to him?
Nov-16-09  andrewjsacks: I thank you again, TheFocus. I know John, and perhaps you know that the game is in the first edition of his book on that '64 simul tour. I believe that there are some notes as well (but not mine). I must email him.
Nov-16-09  TheFocus: <andrewjsacks> Yes, I have just went through A Legend on the Road and The Unknown Bobby Fischer by Donaldson. Your game and D. Rogosin's are there for this exhibition.

I like the chessdryad site. There was some interesting reading there. I was looking at it for Fischer stuff.

Nov-17-09  andrewjsacks: TheFocus, John says the expanded 2nd edition has been out for some time, he's hoping it sells out, but there are no immediate plans for a third. We can all hope that the 2nd sells well and there will in fact be another edition in the future...
Nov-17-09  TheFocus: <andrewjsacks> I must have misunderstood him. I had called to offer him the four unknown games from the 1964 tour in Bobby Fischer Uncensored. He said he had the book also. Mayhaps he will do print them in the Mechanic's Institute newsletter.
Oct-08-12  unferth: from today's L.A. Times:

Oct-08-12  andrewjsacks: <unferth> Thank you for posting this link! Good eyes by you and good to have our glory noted once again. Donn, of course, at 16 years of age was the only one out of 50 to beat Fischer, and I, at 15, and another junior player secured the only two draws. Thank you for refreshing old and venerable memories, Sir.
Oct-08-12  RookFile: What happenned here, Bobby just moved too quickly in this simul game?
Oct-08-12  unferth: <andrewjsacks> you're most welcome. come to think of it, I believe I backed into an undeserved win against you once in Pasadena, so I'm basking in a sliver of your reflected glory. apart from Anthony Saidy, who beat me like a dog, you're my only connection to RJF.
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  GrahamClayton: Here is a photo of the exhibition that included this game. Can Rogosin be identified?

Dec-01-14  TheFocus: From a simul in Hollywood, California on April 12, 1964.

Fischer scored 47=2-1.

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