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Sergey Karjakin vs Vasyl Ivanchuk
"An Eye for An Eye" (game of the day Feb-28-2022)
Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2009) (blindfold), Nice FRA, rd 11, Mar-26
Benoni Defense: Classical Variation. General (A70)  ·  1-0

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Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Williebob: <nok> - Talking, protesting, putting money in front of mouths... do you really think you know how to prevent or end wars? Explain global politics to this simpleton, please. Or just admit you are full of it.
Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  moronovich: These are harder times.

We dont need <Miss Scarlett> to use "Silly bitch" and an "Eye for an eye" unfriendly expressions.

Feb-28-22  nok: <Diademas: <nok> lives in a binary world where you are either a comrade or a fascist.>

Nice strawman. Try to persuade yourself the owner's leanings are anything other than far-right, tho.

<Z>, <Atterdag> and others have had the courage to stop financing the site after the repeated racist, sexist, personal attacks condoned by the owner. Live with your conscience.

Feb-28-22  nok: <Talking, protesting, putting money in front of mouths... do you really think you know how to prevent or end wars? >

Protesting in this context means to stop forking money to a site where provocation and hate speech is a daily occurence.

We all know how the owner cares about oral complaints.

Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: I don’t know the owners politics, and contrary to you I couldn’t give a flying f**k.

This is first and foremost a chess site.
The sewer that is Rogoff should be treated as a toxic waste site. You are not going to change anyones mind by feeding trolls like <GW>, <Mort> or whomever.

The value of <CG> is the contributions of its members. I don’t contribute much, partly because of time and parlty because my knowledge is nothing compared to others. What is your excuse?

Feb-28-22  nok: <I don’t know the owners politics, and contrary to you I couldn’t give a flying f**k.>

Maybe you don't, and I wouldn't either if they didn't translate to regular attacks on, if not friends then fellow humans like <Z>, <chancho>, Kosteniuk, blacks, gays or indeed Palestinians and Ukrainians.

And it's not just Rogoff. It spills everywhere and this page is proof enough. There are many cool users on the site and that's why I'm here, but it rots from the head.

Feb-28-22  Z truth 000000001: RE: The pun (or rather the timing of it).... just one word...

<insufferable>

Feb-28-22  Absentee: <nok: the owner's leanings are anything other than far-right, tho.>

Which one? The good far-right or the bad far-right?

Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: Did <zanzipoor> ever contribute so much as a brass razoo here? As for not endorsing the site, didn't he recently offer to buy it? Now it seems he has other plans.
Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <Maybe you don't, and I wouldn't either if they didn't translate to regular attacks on, if not friends then fellow humans like <Z>, <chancho>, Kosteniuk, blacks, gays or indeed Palestinians and Ukrainians.>

Are attacks on NATO allowed? Asking for a friend.

Feb-28-22  Z free or die: Here's my acceptance speech:

<

I have joined the <CG> arena
so that the powerful
can no longer beat up
on people
that cannot
defend themselves.

<[thunderous applause]>

Nobody knows the system better than me, ...

<[pause for knowing smirk, then shrug]>

which is why I ALONE CAN FIX IT!"

<[the crowd go wild, my coronation is assured]>>

* * * * *

I already have, at the ready, a nice short leash for the irreplaceable <Missy>!

<[more thunderous applause, bedlam ensues]>

Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <FSR: Here, it appears that <MissScarlett>, in the midst of a war of aggression condemned by virtually the entire world, has deliberately chosen as the GOTD a game won by the chess world's foremost cheerleader for that war against the invaded country's most beloved, indeed legendary, player.>

The result of the game is immaterial, but I work with what I'm given. In fact, it would have better suited my purpose if the game was drawn.

<And the caption of the game, "An Eye for An Eye," is a biblical allusion to blood vengeance.>

Not so. Correctly seen, it's a call not for escalating violence, but for a just peace. Ask your Biblical scholar friend, <OCF>, if he agrees with me.

Feb-28-22  macer75: <nok: <Diademas: <nok> lives in a binary world where you are either a comrade or a fascist.> Nice strawman. Try to persuade yourself the owner's leanings are anything other than far-right, tho.

<Z>, <Atterdag> and others have had the courage to stop financing the site after the repeated racist, sexist, personal attacks condoned by the owner. Live with your conscience.>

Yeah, what we need is more censorship. What a great idea.

Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: I thought the 'eye for an eye' referred to the fact this game was a blindfold game. But I gave up long ago trying to make any sense of the puns on here.

Regarding the chosen GOTD. An unfortunate choice due to the timing.

Feb-28-22  nok: <Yeah, what we need is more censorship. What a great idea.>

How about, you're free to make puns about silly bitches and dead civilians and I'm free to not support your site.

Anyway, my point was that complaining in words only is pointless. The site owner doesn't understand that language.

Feb-28-22  JohnBoy: Alright - I see your point <FSR>. In pretty poor taste as GotD. Up there w an RKelly tribute to Prince Andrew on NPR.

We cannot deny the games KrakkerJak. But maybe wait to post a few after a Norman Whittaker retrospective.

Feb-28-22  faulty: I was horrified by this choice of GOTD. And the evident refusal to remove the game as GOTD after the messages of some posters. I have to wonder what we get tomorrow. Maybe some victory of Alekhine over Rubinstein or Spielmann with the title Heil H1tler? Or a game lost by Petrovs in the 1940 USSR championship titled Stalin's Sun? After today, nothing would surprise me here.
Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Teyss: <Sally Simpson> Yes the pun would have been ok with a different player. But enough of this.
It could then have been perfect if the other game of the tournament, also interesting, had been won by Ivanchuk. Ivanchuk vs Karjakin, 2009 Or maybe the inverted endings Q vs R+B and R+B vs Q justify the pun symmetry?
Feb-28-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Check It Out: Too soon.
Mar-01-22  Z truth 000000001: Too late.
Mar-01-22  newzild: A good game title in the sense of it being a blindfold game.

I'd be curious to know if any topical game titles were published during the US invasion of Iraq, which turned out to be based on false pretences.

Disclosure: I hope Putin gets his butt kicked - but I live in a Western country exposed to Western propaganda.

Mar-01-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  diceman: <nok: <Yeah, what we need is more censorship. What a great idea.>

How about, you're free to make puns about silly bitches and dead civilians>

Well, maybe in a Richard <Rap>port game.

Mar-01-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  diceman: <Sally Simpson: I thought the 'eye for an eye' referred to the fact this game was a blindfold game.>

That's what I thought.

If it was a war reference, you should be playing the lottery.

Mar-02-22  Saniyat24: A brilliant game...!
Mar-02-22  Saniyat24: maybe 29...Nd7 did not help Ivanchuk much, but I don't see a better option...!
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