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Jan Wagenaar vs Sangeeta Hosea
Correspondence - Internet (2009) (correspondence), GameKnot.com, Jan-10
Nimzo-Larsen Attack: Modern Variation (A01)  ·  0-1

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Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: I'm in text only mode here <OD>.

At least I can see the game score now.

haha

Mar-14-09  Open Defence: this is more of a reversed Sicilian than a Nimzo Larsen
Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: For reference, here is where the OE ends.

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Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: So 7...a6 is a novelty for C.G.
Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: I like 13...Nd8 a lot <OD>

19...Be7 is interesting like you say, what else did you consider there?

Maybe 19...Rc8 or 19...Nd4

22...Nc6 is another move I liked, taking control of d4.

I thought 26.Bxd4 was too hasty. I might have played 26.Kh2 I think.

40.Nxe2 seems stronger than 40.Rxd3

Maybe you could explain the reasoning behind 44..Rff8 <OD>? I'm not sure what I would have tried here, needs more thought.

Is it a forced win after 51.Rxd3 or can White hold do you think?

I think White should have left his a pawn and brought the Knight to the KS.

That is a great endgame <OD>, you made it look easy!

Thanks for sharing!

Mar-14-09  Open Defence: a6 has been played on move 8 after castling on move 7, I wanted to see if I could get a favourable transposition so I played 7...a6
Mar-14-09  Woody Wood Pusher: Looks like it worked.
Mar-14-09  Open Defence: <Wagenaar> felt that White could still hold after accepting the pawn sacrifice

44...Rc6 is a main alternative also maybe 44...a5 45.Re2 g6

the idea behind Rff8 was to play Rfd8 in response to Rge3 or Rc3 while retaining the other Rook behind the c pawn, if White tries to block the c pawn by 45.Nc3 then Black has the option of Rfe8

Mar-20-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <Woody Wood Pusher: Ah the moves aren't displayed for me again. Why does this keep happening...? > Whoever uploaded this game had the uncommon 64...Ra2a4+ instead of the proper 64...R2a4+, and several other moves of a similar error. We corrected that now so you should be able to see it.
Mar-20-09  Open Defence: <Whoever uploaded this game had the uncommon 64...Ra2a4+ instead of the proper 64...R2a4+, and several other moves of a similar error. We corrected that now so you should be able to see it.> mea culpa, sorry for the trouble
Mar-21-09  just a kid: Great game Od!I'm surprised I've held on this long against you!
Sep-04-09  nescio: Before trying to enlighten some aspects of this complicated game I give a few games which illustrate how dangerous the white attack can become if Black doesn't react promptly to the challenge.

[Event "Chessgames.com 5th Anniversary Tournament"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=700..."]
[Date "2007.04.20"]
[Round "-"]
[White "wagenaar"]
[Black "lethe"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1972"]
[BlackElo "1880"]
[TimeControl "432000+172800"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. c4 Nf6 4. e3 d5 5. cxd5 Nxd5
6. a3 Bd6 7. Qc2 O-O 8. Nf3 Qe7 9. d3 f5 10. Nbd2 Kh8 11. Be2 Bd7 12. h4 Rae8 13. h5 Nf6 14. h6 g6 15. g3 Kg8 16. b4 b5 17. Ng5 a5 18. Bf3 e4 19. dxe4 Nxe4 20. Bxe4 fxe4 21. Ndxe4 axb4 22. Bg7 Rf7 23. Nxf7 Qxe4 24. Qxe4 Rxe4 25. Nxd6 cxd6 26. axb4 Nxb4 27. O-O Kf7 28. Rfd1 Ke6 29. Ra8 Bc6 30. Rh8 Rc4 31. Rxh7 Bf3 32. Rb1 Be4 33. Rf1 Rc2 1-0

[Event "Trier op"]
[Site "Trier"]
[Date "2002.07.27"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Cioara,Andrei Nestor"]
[Black "Meijers,Viesturs"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "B43"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6 5.Bd3 Qc7 6.0-0 Nf6 7.Nc3 b6 8.Kh1 Bb7 9.f4 d6 10.Qf3 Nbd7 11.Bd2 Be7 12.Rae1 h5 13.Qe2 h4 14.Nf3 h3 15.g3 Nc5 16.b4 Ncd7 17.a4 g6 18.Kg1 Ng4 19.Nd4 Nh6 20.g4 Bf6 21.Ncb5 axb5 22.Nxb5 Qc6 23.g5 Bg7 24.gxh6 Rxh6 25.Na3 Rh4 26.Rf3 Kf8 27.Qf2 Rh5 28.Nb5 Rxa4 29.Nd4 Qc8 30.Rg3 Nc5 31.f5 Nxd3 32.cxd3 exf5 33.exf5 gxf5 34.Bg5 Rxg5 35.Rxg5 Ra2 36.Qf4 Be5 37.Qe3 Bxh2+ 38.Kf1 Bg2+ 0-1

Sep-04-09  Open Defence: <nescio> looking forward to your analysis
Sep-05-09  nescio: <Open Defence> Did I say something about analysis? I just want to make a few remarks, perhaps hoping that people with more calculative ability will jump in. The complications are still too much for me, just as they were during the game.
Sep-05-09  nescio: <12.h4> is the first significant move of the game. I think I first saw the move in a Sicilian context in the 1970's in Nezhmetdinov vs Taimanov, 1959 and I immediately loved it. The idea of a defensive move that could easily become an attacking weapon appealed to me. Since then I have hardly played a Sicilian without ...h5, sooner or later. In many cases it will be theoretically suspect, but I just like it.

More relevant for this particular game is Parma vs Szabo, 1965, but there the players called it a day as soon as an equal position was reached.

Sep-05-09  Open Defence: <Did I say something about analysis?> oh I misunderstood, sorry
Sep-05-09  nescio: <Open Defence> No need to apologize, I was only joking. Of course I'll try to analyze if I feel like it. Recently I showed the game to some youngsters who are stronger than I am, but they couldn't tell me at first glance where the mistakes were ("This game needs a few hours with an engine").
Sep-05-09  rchczrms: First, a battle to pawn retrieval ensued.

Second, the pawn recovery with a positional advantage.

Then slowly grinding the opponent...

Ahhh...We are all indeed just slaves to the grind. The Lady Scorpion has struck again!

Sep-05-09  Open Defence: I thought my Knight maneuvers between moves 13 and 18 were quite Nimzoesque...
Sep-05-09  Open Defence: <nescio> I felt that perhaps White should have declined the pawn.. Black seemed to get a lot of activity after its acceptance....
Sep-05-09  rchczrms: <I thought my Knight maneuvers between moves 13 and 18 were quite Nimzoesque.>

More like HOSEAque. You should start a religion then have a set of laws called the "Hoseac LAw". :)

The knights seemed to provoke White pawns to advance thereby losing control of squares which should have been protected: the f4-square particularly.

I remember my first and only game with you. You accepted my draw offer because I had to deal with a lot of demons first. I played Black on that CK PB Attack and I thought just now, how could you be so generous with a draw back then. :)

Ms. Hosea or <OD>, my lifetime chess second asked about the waterfall background in your profile photo. What is its name and where is it located?

Sep-08-09  nescio: <Open Defence> I gave my reasons for accepting the pawn right after the game, but I'll get back to it in a few weeks or a few months, perhaps.
Sep-08-09  nescio: <42.Rg3> I may have lost the game here. I spent a lot of time trying to make 42.Rd7 work:

42.Rd7 c4 43.bxc4 bxc4 44.Ng5 Nxg4 45.Re7 and White is allright.

42.Rd7 Nxg4 43.Nxc5 Rxc5 44.Re8+ Rf8 45.Rxf8+ Kxf8 46.Kxg4 Rc3 47.Rd6 Rxb3 48.Rxa6. White will survive this, but not, unfortunatelY:

42.Rd7 Nxg4 43.Nxc5 Nf6! 44.Rxg7+ Kxg7 45.Ne6+ Kf7 46.Nxf4 Rc3+.

I realized now rhat I had two choices: 42.Rg3 and 42.Rc3. I rejected the latter because after 42...c4 43.bxc4 bxc4 44.Nd6 Rd8 45.Rxc4 Rf3+ 46.Kg2 Rxa3 the white king seems to be cut off and the outside passed pawn looked dangerous to me.

Perhaps rejecting 42.Rc3 was too hasty.

Sep-08-09  Open Defence: yes Rg3 allowed c4,

after 42.Rc3 Nxg4 43.Kg3 Rcf8 44.Nxc5 its probably much harder if at all possible to win...but White has to defend well

<42...c4 43.bxc4 bxc4 44.Nd6 Rd8 45.Rxc4 Rf3+ 46.Kg2 Rxa3 >

well after 47.Re7 I think White can keep things held together, Black must be careful of the back rank which is why I played 44...Rff8 in the game

Dec-03-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: However it was made, 19...Be7 is a true brilliancy. White wins a pawn but is suddenly planless, while the Black pieces spring to life.
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