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| Feb-24-17 | | iking: first two moves only .. |
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Feb-24-17
 | | ChessHigherCat: Fantastic game, how come I never heard of Beggi before? I accidentally saw (Freud would say I subconsciously cheated, of course) <nalinw>'s comment so I knew the first move had to be N+ on e4 or g4, probably the latter to prevent white from getting other pieces into play, but it's still mind-boggling. If white declines the sacrifice with Kd1/d2, then he's royally forked. If Kg1, then Qh4 threatens mate. The big question is what if 27. Kf1? Black can play N(g)xe3+ 28. Bxe3, Qxe3+ 29. Rxe3 Nxe3 with another royal fork, but maybe the quieter 27...Nxh7+ is better, since if the K goes to the e file there's still the royal fork and if K to g1 Nxg3+, but it's too exhausting for an exhaustive analysis, and that's just the line of declining the sacrifice. |
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Feb-24-17
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: Fifty-year-old Beggi treats his 80-year-old opponent with insufficient deference. |
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| Feb-24-17 | | Boerboel Guy: Canal drew with Capablanca, Tarrasch & Nimzowitch !!!! |
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| Feb-24-17 | | Walter Glattke: The solution: 36.Bxe3 Rb2 37.Bd2 Qxd2 38.Rxd2 R8c2 39.Bb4 Rxd2+ 40.Bxd2 Rxd2+ - 1 rook more for black. |
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| Feb-24-17 | | YouRang: Meh, I glanced at moving the N, but didn't see how it led to any clear tactical "solution". I settled for <26...Qc7>. Save the queen, each side has a rook under attack, and things are basically even. There are worse things than being even, but it is a rather uninspired offering to a chess puzzle. ~~~
Even plugging it into the computer, It's not so clear how well things work out for black. For the "best play" line, I'm getting: <26...Ng4+ 27.Bxg4 Qh4+> as played
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Here, it seems white's best is not <28.Kg1>, but 28.Kf3 (guarding the B). Then, it goes: 28...bxa3 29.bxa3 Nh6 (threaten the B)
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Now, 30.Bd7! Qh5+ (although 30...Qxh2 may be preferable) 31.Kg3 Ra8
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Stockfish_16090917_x64_modern @ 32 ply:
-0.47 32.a4 Nf5+ 33.Bxf5 Qxf5 34.Qxf5 gxf5 35.a5 Re4
-0.77 32.Bxe8 Rxe8 33.h3 Nf5+ 34.Kf2 Qh4+ 35.Kg1 Rxe3 So, it appears that black is a little better after all that... |
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| Feb-24-17 | | Big Pawn: I got the first three moves but never considered 29...Nd4. I just figured the problem was solved after taking the rook with the bishop still hanging. |
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| Feb-24-17 | | gofer: Okay, I think we can provide some "luft" for our threatened queen by playing Ng4+... <26 ... Ng4+>
<27 Bxg4 Qh4+>
click for larger view27 g6??? loses the white queen to Qxh2+, so the king must move... 27 ... King move
28 bxa3 
We have weathered the storm, but is that enough!?! Maybe... ~~~
I see this one as the 3rd POTD this week where the position is far from clear
with the best defence being played... ...pity... |
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| Feb-24-17 | | Moszkowski012273: Just 19.QxN... and White has nothing to fear.
And yes 28.Kf3... makes it MUCH harder on Blackto win. |
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| Feb-24-17 | | morfishine: I don't know whats more astonishing: <26...Ng4>! or <29...Nd4>! In any case, I suspect engines could clean up a lot of this mess, no offense to Mr. Beggi and his impetuous ingenuity ***** |
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| Feb-24-17 | | WorstPlayerEver: Beggi's Banquet |
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| Feb-24-17 | | SpamIAm: <Boerboel Guy> That was a different Canal. www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esteban_Canal |
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Feb-24-17
 | | kevin86: Different Canal? Maybe the were playing the game on Mars |
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Feb-24-17
| | kevin86: He played a game where he sacrificed both rooks and a queen to a Boden's mate! |
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| Feb-24-17 | | YouRang: Just for the fun, there is a nice combination in the computer "best play" line that I posted above: After <27...Qh4+>, white's best move is 27.Kf3, and then black takes the rook with 27...bxa3:
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What should white do with this?
It would be easy to think "take the rook with Nxb8". After all, black's Pa3 doesn't look too threatening (...a2 can be met with Bd2, guarding the a1 promotion square) But if we try 29.Nxb8, then 29...a2! 30.Bd2
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Now 30...Rxe3+!, forcing 31.Bxe3
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Then, 31...Qxg4+!, forcing 32.Kxg4 Nxe3+ (forking K+Q) 33.Kf3 Nxc2
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Now the N controls the a1 promotion square, and after exchanges, black will be up a full piece  :-) |
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| Feb-24-17 | | morfishine: <YouRang> 29.Bxf5 |
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| Feb-24-17 | | YouRang: <morfishine: <YouRang> 29.Bxf5> Yes, but still 29...a2!
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30.Bd2 Qh5+
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31.Kf2 (31.Bg4 Qxd5+ & ...Qxc6) 31...Rxb2!
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32.Qxb2 Qxd1 33.Qxa2 gxf5
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Black is up the exchange, and has a passed pawn on c5 |
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Feb-24-17
 | | agb2002: Black has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair. White threatens Nxe7+ and Nxb8.
The queen sac 26... bxa3 27.Nxe7+ Rxe7 28.bxa3 doesn't seem to achieve anything but losing decisive material. Another option is 26... Ng4+, trying to make the most of the position of the white king. I haven't found the time today for this puzzle but a sample, interesting line is 27.Bxg4 Qh4+ 28.Kf3 bxa3 29.Nxb8 a2 30.Qa4 Nh6 31.h3 f5 traps White's LSB. |
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| Feb-24-17 | | whiteshark: I didn't delve into it too much but enjoyed -as always- <YouRang>'s break down |
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| Feb-24-17 | | whiteshark: * 'break down' in the meaning of <analyse> that is. ;) |
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| Feb-24-17 | | YouRang: <whiteshark> Thank you! And don't worry, I knew what you meant. My psychiatrist likes to analyse by break downs too. ;-) |
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| Feb-24-17 | | morfishine: <YouRang> After 30...Qh5+ not 31.Kf2? but <31.g4> putting Black Queen en prise I got 31...Qh3+ 32.Ke2 Qg2+ 33.Ke1 and Black has to work to keep up the attack but White is down an exchange and losing Try that to improve (or extend the agony) lol :) ***** |
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| Feb-24-17 | | mel gibson: The compter agrees but gives less than a 1 pawn advantage: 26. Nc6 Ng4+
(26. .. Ng4+ (♘f6-g4+ ♗f3xg4 ♕e7-h4+ ♔f2-f3 ♘f5-h6 ♗g4-d7 b4xa3 b2xa3
♕h4-h5+ ♔f3-g3 ♖b8-a8 a3-a4 ♖e8-e4 a4-a5 ♗f8-g7 ♔g3-f2 ♘h6-g4+ ♗d7xg4
♕h5xg4 a5-a6 ♕g4-f5 ♕c2-e2 ♖a8-e8 a6-a7 ♕f5xf4+ e3xf4 ♖e4xe2+ ♔f2-f3 ♖e2-a2
♖d1-d2 ♖a2-a4) +0.37/19 128)
score +0.37 depth 19 |
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| Feb-24-17 | | RandomVisitor: 26...Ng4+ 27.Bxg4 Qh4+ 28.Kf3 bxa3 29.bxa3 Nh6 30.Bd7
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-0.65/36 30...Qh5+ 31.Kg3 Ra8 32.a4 Bg7 33.a5 g5 34.fxg5 Qxg5+ 35.Kf2 Ng4+ 36.Kg1 Qh5 37.Bxg4 Qxg4 38.h3 Qh5 39.Kh2 h6 40.e4 Qh4 41.Rf1 Qxe4 42.Qd2 Qc4 43.Rf2 Qc3 44.Qxc3 Bxc3 45.Bf4 Bxa5 46.Bxd6 c4 47.Rc2 c3 48.Be7 Ra6 49.Nxa5 Rxe7 50.Nc4 Rd7 51.d6 f6 52.Rxc3 Kf7 53.Kg3 Ke6 54.Kf3 Rb7 55.Re3+ Kd5 56.Re4 Kc6 -0.50/36 30...Qxh2 31.Nxb8 Qh5+ 32.Kf2 Rxb8 33.Bd2 Qxd5 34.a4 Qh5 35.a5 d5 36.Ra1 Qh4+ 37.Kg1 Rb7 38.Bh3 Ng4 39.Bxg4 Qxg4 40.Bc3 Qe6 41.Kf2 Qd6 42.Be5 Qa6 43.Bc3 Rb5 44.Qd2 Rb3 45.Rc1 Qc4 46.Be5 Rd3 47.Qe2 Qa6 48.Rd1 c4 49.Rxd3 cxd3 50.Qa2 Bb4 51.Qxd5 Bxa5 52.Qd7 Bb4 53.Qd8+ Bf8 54.Bb2 |
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| Feb-24-17 | | YouRang: <morfishine: <YouRang> After 30...Qh5+ not 31.Kf2? but <31.g4> putting Black Queen en prise
I got 31...Qh3+ 32.Ke2 Qg2+ 33.Ke1 and Black has to work to keep up the attack but White is down an exchange and losing Try that to improve (or extend the agony) lol :)> After your 33.Ke1, black plays 33...Ra8!
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Threatening ...a1Q, and after Rxa1 ...Rxa1+, mate probably follows soon. If black blocks the pawn: 34.Ra1, then 34...Qg1+
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Looks like agony to me. :-) |
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