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Tomi Nyback vs Magnus Carlsen
"Fight to the Finnish" (game of the day Feb-20-2023)
Dresden Olympiad (2008), Dresden GER, rd 6, Nov-19
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Two Knights Defense Blockade Line (D37)  ·  1-0

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Nov-20-08  notyetagm: <Illogic: Some beautiful zwischenzugs by Nyback in this game.>

Indeed.

Carlsen is *so* good that, like Kasparov, any win against him is damn near a masterpiece.

Nov-20-08  notyetagm: <Eban: tomi nyback played like as if he was using anti-computer tactics: neutralize all tactical play and squeeze!>

Nyback played like he was playing against a computer?

He *was*!

Nov-20-08  notyetagm: Just a beautiful game.

My favorite game of the Olympiad because it featured one of my favorite themes, sacrificing to create monstrous <PASSED PAWNS>.

Nov-21-08  Philidor: As a B-class player (who usually play blitz chess), I'm totaly impressed by sacrifices that pays off 10 moves later (gaining a pawn, as well)!
Dec-07-08  Resignation Trap: Here are some videos of this game in progress.

After 20.axb5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImDb... .

After 27.b6!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1r... .

After 35.fxe3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STK... .

Jan-03-09  TheWizardfromHarlem: hmmmm...
Mar-29-09  notyetagm: Great game by Nyback. Not often that you see Carlsen beaten this easily.
Apr-06-09  notyetagm: Wow, I love this game.
Apr-07-09
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  jessicafischerqueen: From the Resigned position-

I just played it out against my <Shredder> set to 20 ply.

It took me 25 moves to go all the way- to checkmate I mean. When it offered to resign I played on anyway to see how to do it.

Thing is, there are many, many ways for White to win here because the only real "threat" Black has is a draw by perpetual.

So yes as <Switching Owls for Thugs> suggested, it's not hard to force off the Black Queen in exchange for a White Queen after a bit of "fooping around"- you force Black to loosen his King position with mate threats and then you can force the Black Queen off-- then you march your king up the board.

Black can't make a fortress with the Bishop guarding a pawn or pawns= the idea being that White's Queen couldn't capture the pawn without exchanging itself for the bishop-

This is an illusory "draw threat" as it turns out.

As the <Switching Owl> said, once the Black Queen is off the White Queen can "hold the fort" and the White King can just march right up the board unopposed and White can pick off the pawns one by one, with the Queen and King working in coordination.

I bet most of you could win this position in a lot fewer than 25 moves, as well.

Thing is- It's not a whopping edge in <Engine eval> (four and a half pawns by Shredder count)-

But it might as well be a million pawns really because Black <must lose> and <cannot draw> unless White makes a big, big mistake- like Hanging a piece or allowing a perpetual.

I invite some of you to try this experiment- It's fun!!

Jun-07-09
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  Bobsterman3000: This 7. c5 maneuver never works for me. :-(

I wonder if Magnus would have been better served with a KS counter-attack after that move, exploiting the hole on e4.

Nov-11-14  Ke2: Followed today, but Anand played 11. Bxa6
Nov-11-15  TPFIN: It took me 56 moves to win Chessmaster-program from the end situation...
Nov-27-17  krippp: I played the ending, found this pretty problem-like mate, white to play and mate:


click for larger view

The correct answer is...

...<58.Qd7!> and mates in 5. Taking the Bishop with <58.Qxh6+> is only mate in 10, the black King escaping via e7 and d6, the Pawns having to be gobbled, the Kings walked to an edge, and Queen zugzwanging the black King with a waiting move.

<58.Qd7> is followed by <Kf5> then <Kg6> and mates with the Queen.

Unmaterialistic, or should I say, we aim for higher material than mere Bishops and Pawns.

Playing <58.Kf5> immediately, gets stuck with <58..Bg7>.

Apr-04-21  areknames: <A superb performance by Nybäck>

I definitely concur, what a game from the Player of the Day this Easter 2021.

Feb-16-23
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  FSR: Fight to the Finnish.
Feb-20-23
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  FSR: Wow. This one only took four days!
Feb-20-23  nalinw: Very good pun FSR - as Magnus played on instead of resigning ....
Feb-20-23
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  OhioChessFan: Typical obvious pun by <FSR>
Feb-20-23
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  Teyss: <FSR: Wow. This one only took four days!> That makes an average for the ones you waited 10 years for.

Yes Carlsen could have resigned before, hence the pun but then White might have been short on time and Black wanted to make sure he didn't slip before move 40. Playing the clock is also part of the game.

As pointed above, White wins by exchanging Qs and moving his K forward. SF confirms this and gives +8.53 at 40 ply after 36.b8=Q.

Feb-20-23  goodevans: In the final annotation, SF meekly offers to exchange Qs with 40...Qf5 only two moves in.

I'm sure I've found myself in losing positions more often than SF but at least I know how to put up a fight!

Feb-20-23
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  Honza Cervenka: 18...Qc7 was probably a decisive mistake, as after 19.a4! black has no satisfactory alternative to the line leading to sacrifice of piece for two connected Passers, which are much stronger than a piece here. 18...axb4 was necessary.

White could have played also 28.Ra7 Qb8 29.dxc5 Bxc5 30.Nd7 Qd6 31.Nxc5 Qxc5 32.Ra6 Qc6 33.b7 +-

Feb-20-23  faulty: is Messiah ok? strange not to see him/her here... Getting worried
Feb-20-23
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  Messiah: <faulty: is Messiah ok? strange not to see him/her here... Getting worried>

I'm OK, and it seems my comment disappeared mysteriously - I mean, there is no way I did not comment this game in the recent years.

Feb-20-23  faulty: Messiah> glad to have you here, my dear friend
Feb-20-23
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  perfidious: <antichrist.... it seems my comment disappeared mysteriously....>

What is the mystery? Somone likely dropped a dime, given your tendency to slag your favourite player whenever he comes in for a defeat.

<.... - I mean, there is no way I did not comment this game in the recent years.>

Oh, we are only too aware of that.

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