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| Jul-31-07 | | Marmot PFL: White down two exchanges, loeks hopeless. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | tarlan13: Congrat to Radjabov. Go on to the first place and make a double. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Kangaroo: Let us look at the Polgar vs Onischuk game: the technical part will have to last long enough there! |
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| Jul-31-07 | | MorphysMojo: I think black will win more games than white this round. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Ybrevo: Seems like Radjabov got his beloved Kings Indian again. At the moment he looks like the present master in this opening with Black, so I wonder why a player like van Wely, having a terrible tournament, wants to try it out against him? |
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| Jul-31-07 | | sofouuk: if VW had played 28 Bh6 then Nxf5 29 Qa1+ Kh7 30 Bg5 Ne3 31 Kg1 Qc8 32 Nf6+ Rxf6 33 Qxf3 Qh8 34 Qf7+ equal was Fritz best effort. Crazy stuff |
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| Jul-31-07 | | notyetagm: <Ybrevo: Seems like Radjabov got his beloved Kings Indian again. At the moment he looks like the present master in this opening with Black, so I wonder why a player like van Wely, having a terrible tournament, wants to try it out against him?> Because Van Wely is a 1 d4 2 c4 kinda player: this is his A-game. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Per: This is as bad as I have seen Van Vely look. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Marmot PFL: <Ybrevo> Seems like van Wely plays many sharp line without enough preparation, but here he might have had good game and blundered (have to check it over later). |
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| Jul-31-07 | | ssj: turn on polgar-onischuk. i hope it will be draw |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Ybrevo: <notyetagm> Still, there are many ways to steer away from the KI for White, if you know you are up against an expert (like Gufeld or Golubev to mention two others). The move order starting with 1. c4 could be one way to do it. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | djmercury: <if VW had played 28 Bh6 then Nxf5 29 Qa1+ Kh7 30 Bg5 Ne3 31 Kg1 Qc8 32 Nf6+ Rxf6 33 Qxf3 Qh8 34 Qf7+ equal was Fritz best effort. Crazy stuff>
Fritz doesn't see 29. ... d4?
Loosing mistake was probably 27. f5, Qa1+ and f5 after was the correct follow up. But Radjabov has to be praised for finding h6. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | djmercury: <Ybrevo> Van Vely and Radjabov have a theoretical dispute on this line. Chech the last games they have played eachother. VW eliminated Radjabov from the World Cup qualifiers with a victory in this line. From Van Vely to playing something different would be like saying that Radjabov has refuted the whole line in the past games they played in Corus and then at the Amber. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | djmercury: <Fritz doesn't see 29. ... d4?> Maybe 30. Bg5 Qe8 and black cramped position could still allow white to draw. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | dbquintillion: These KID games he's playing are very exciting to watch. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | percyblakeney: It looked as if Radjabov played into a prepared line, there were a couple of instant moves from van Wely around the exchange sacrifice, with Radjabov well behind on the clock. Both players used half an hour on their 27th, but Radjabov found the better move. A very entertaining game and counting from his win against Topalov in Linares 2006 Radjabov has +10 -1 =26 with black. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Eyal: <djmercury: <Ybrevo> Van Vely and Radjabov have a theoretical dispute on this line.> It's starting to look like an actual match. So far 3-1 to Radja: Van Wely vs Radjabov, 2005
Van Wely vs Radjabov, 2007
Van Wely vs Radjabov, 2007
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Jul-31-07
 | | al wazir: What was the point of 27. f5 ? After 27. Qa1+ Kg8 28. Nf6+ Rxf6 29. Qxf6 Qf8 30. Bxd5 white wins. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | percyblakeney: <After 27. Qa1+ Kg8 28. Nf6+ Rxf6 29. Qxf6 Qf8 30. Bxd5 white wins> Doesn't work, just to exchange queens and take on d5 for black: 
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| Jul-31-07 | | percyblakeney: van Wely's chance to save a draw may have been in the line 27. Qa1+ Kg8 28. f5 gxf5 29. Bh6 d4 30. Nd6 Rf6 31. Nf7 Rxh6 32. Nxd8 Rxd8 but it's probably not easy to find (and defend) without an engine. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | euripides: After <27.Qa1+> perhaps Black can play 27...d4 and return some material to smplify e.g. 28.Bf6+ Rxf6 29.Nxf6 Nf5 (hitting f6 and d3) 30.Ng4 h5 31.Ne5 Nd3+ 32.Kg1 Nxc4 32.Nxc4 Qd5 looks very winnable. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | euripides: I seem to remember van Wely losing about three games on the black side of the English attack in one Corus. His willingness to take on theoretically crucial variations against the best players helps to justify the invitations he gets. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | Eyal: <euripides: After <27.Qa1+> perhaps Black can play 27...d4 and return some material to smplify> In that case, White has the nice tactical shot 28.Nd6! (again, not so easy to see without an engine...) - with what seems to be a more or less balanced game after 28...h6 (cxd6?? 29.Qxd4+) 29.Bxh6 Kh7 30.Bxf8 Qxf8 31.Nf7. |
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| Jul-31-07 | | euripides: <eyal> thanks, Nd6 is splendidly vicious. |
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Jul-31-07
| | al wazir: <percyblakeney: Doesn't work, just exchange queens and take on d5.> Right, my bad. But after 30. Qxe7 Qxe7 31. Bxe7 dxc4, white is only an exchange down and the ♙ on e6 is menacing. |
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