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Vladimir Kramnik vs Magnus Carlsen
Dortmund Sparkassen (2007), Dortmund, GER, rd 4, Jun-27
Catalan Opening: Closed Variation (E06)  ·  1-0

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Jun-28-07  Bridgeburner: <KamikazeAttack> Why is that funny?
Jun-29-07  Ulhumbrus: One justification for 19...Qd6!, instead of 19...Bxc6? which may be the losing mistake, is that the move 19...Bxc6 increases the value of White's Ns. Why? Because powerful and attractive as the Ne5 may appear to be, it is in fact doing little on e5, while the Black QB can be considered the equal of the Nc6 insofar as it can exchange itself for a N on c6. On the other hand, if White can be persuaded to play Nxe7+, the N can be considered to be more valuable than Black's KB. Thus by playing 19...Bxc6? Carlsen is exchanging the bishop which is of greater value for the N.
Jun-29-07  newton296: kramnic just plays 1 perfect move after another from move 17 on . Carlson just can't match the champ in middle and endgame technique ..
Jun-29-07  newton296: I gotta give kramnik his props. the winning lines against gelfand and carlson were complicated and fairly dificult to find but he finds the best moves move after move anyway. I guess it looks easy if you consider finding the perfect move as in this game , from move 16 to 30 an easy way to win! Reminds me of the ruthless technique of fisher, karpov , and capablanca.
Jun-30-07  KamikazeAttack: <Bridgeburner: <KamikazeAttack> Why is that funny?>

The analogy with Akiba.

Jun-30-07  Karpova: <KamikazeAttack>
What's so funny about the comparison with Akiba?
Jul-03-07  Confuse: <Karpova>, <Bridgeburner>

agreed. Rubinstein was among the finest players. Unless you guys are talking about someone else.

Feb-14-08  Eyal: <When you get such a position out of the opening, you don't need to be Kramnik to play it well.> (Kramnik in a post-game interview - http://www.chessclub.com/bits/webca...)
Feb-14-08  aazqua: Really nice win by Kramnik. That guy is a stud.
Mar-06-08  MichAdams: Carlsen deserved to lose, if only because of that jumper he was wearing. At some point, Magnus will become his own man, and buy his own clothes.
Jul-19-08  myschkin: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...

(by Lubomir Kavalek)

May-17-09  MarvinTsai: Though in database Kramnik beat Carlsen with 6:1, this is the only classical time control game among them. I wonder how Kramnik overwhelmed in rapid, blitz, and blindfold?
May-17-09  apple pi: <Marvin Tsai> Well, Kramnik has been noted as a very sharp rapids player, perhaps even better comparatively in rapids than in classical.
May-17-09  KamikazeAttack: <Carlsen deserved to lose, if only because of that jumper he was wearing. At some point, Magnus will become his own man, and buy his own clothes.>

lol

Jul-20-10  Brandon plays: Wow . . . Just wow, this game was beautiful.
Dec-14-10  mastermind7994: This game is more or less a positional masterpiece.
Jul-15-11  Mimchi1: I feel Carlsen could have avoided the positional lock on c5 with 14...b4! 15.axb4 Bxb4 16.Rfd1 Rc8 17.Nc4 c5! The critical break is achieved. 18.dxc5 Qe7 19.Qb3 Bxc5. The position seems equal.
Jul-15-11  rannewman: Why can't white just play 15.aXb4 BXb4 16.Kn b3? c5 will still be locked and the Q side is weakend.
Jul-15-11  Mimchi1: @rannewman: 16.Nb3 would not keep a lock after ...Be4! 17.Qc4 Qd5 18.Qxd5 Bxd5 19.Nc1 The knight is attacked. 19. ...Ne4 20.Nd3 Bd6 21.Nfe5 Rfc8. True, White still has a slight positional advantage, but I believe the outcome will be a drawn endgame.
Jul-12-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Kramnik vs Carlsen, 2007.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KRAMNIK.
Your score: 39 (par = 39)

LTJ

Sep-04-15
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  Penguincw: Video Analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xq....
Jan-16-20  dumbgai: It doesn't involve a tactical melee, but I think this is one of Kramnik's best games and very indicative of his style. He makes an already-dangerous Carlsen look like an amateur with how effortlessly he obtains a dominant position.
Jan-16-20
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  Messiah: Ouch! :-)
Oct-03-21
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  HeMateMe: Magnus just 17 years old here, in the den of the lions...
Oct-03-21
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: The database has 20 games where Kramnik has White after 4.d4. He has 10 wins.

And he has never lost. After watching his work here, makes me wonder how on earth he conceded 10 draws.

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