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Anatoly Karpov vs Mihajlo Stojanovic
GorenjeTournament (2007), Valjevo SRB, rd 8, Jun-20
French Defense: Rubinstein. Fort Knox Variation (C10)  ·  1-0



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Jun-27-07  newton296: I like the slow build up too mate with Qh5 then Qg6 and it's all over .
Jun-27-07  karnak64: <RonB52734>: Wow - Babelfish failed me again? How could this happen?

<builttospill>: Thanx! I'll check out your collection.

Jun-27-07  karnak64: Addendum - <builttospill>: Now I have checked out the collection. Very nice. When I was, um, your age I was following East German French defense hero Wolfgang Uhlmann, and it's nice to see Morozevich pick up the cudgels in the many fine games of his you've provided.
Jun-27-07  goodevans: Thanks <tarek1> and <sanyas> for your replies to my earlier question. I guess if black was determined to play … b6 to redeploy his bishop then preparing the way with 10 … a5 might have been worth considering. No?
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  fm avari viraf: Karpov cleverly manoeuvred his pieces on the Kingside to launch an irresistible attack whereas Stojanovic pieces badly lack the coordination. After the tactical blow 23.Nf6 which brings a final catastrophe for Black as the mate is unavoidable.
Jun-27-07  schnarre: Saw this one right away. The Rubinstenin Rubbed Out (again)!
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  playground player: Gee, I got this puzzle. Now I feel like Karpov. Then again, it's those previous 22 moves that establish the vast gulf between me and a world-class master.
Jun-27-07  dabearsrock1010: i got all appropriate lines. I think this was easier than yesterday!
Jun-27-07  dabearsrock1010: btw i cant believe a 2588 rated player lost in such a fashion
Jun-27-07  Crowaholic: <willyfly: If 23...h6 then 24 Qh5 Re7 25 Qg6 and it's all over.>

If 23. ..h6 24. Qh5 gxf6 25. Qg6 (or Qf7) Ne7!, however, it's not.

Jun-27-07  Timex: This puzzle was quite easy. You needed to know that the g file was very vulnerable, and that the knight sac was the best way to open it.

In my opinion, black should not have accepted the sacrificed knight on c6 since it gave white a free tempo to pursue a kingside attack. Sometimes, tempo can be more important than material, especially when the material can't help you.

Jun-27-07  Billy Ray Valentine: Unfortunately I remembered looking at this game, so I remembered the solution... otherwise, it would have been a nice puzzle!
Jun-27-07  MostlyAverageJoe: Since today's puzzle does appear a bit easy, I would like to invite y'all to revisit the yesterday's one (A Arulaid vs Dus Chotimirsky, 1949, page 3). I posted there a position arising from the (justly) bashed move suggested for the black by my original (definitely too shallow) computer analysis in the 9th move.
Jun-27-07  DCLawyer: I share <dabearsrock1010>'s surprise. Wouldn't a 2588 player normally resign after 23.Nf6, with a forced mate that even patzers like myself can see? I wonder if he was in time pressure.
Jun-27-07  dabearsrock1010: <DCLawyer> Not just the fact he didn't resign, but moves like 20...♘b8, I mean, couldn't he sense the danger against his king...i don't understand it
Jun-27-07  Knight13: Lol @ that rook on b7...
Jun-27-07  Fezzik: I just wanted to say that got this one just right in terms of stars. It's a beautiful mate. If Black had missed 23.Nf6! then he might have been a gentleman and allowed the mate.

I'm looking forward to the next position.

Jul-22-07  krpvksprv: Who said that Karpov doesn't know how to attack? Excellent game.
Nov-17-07  HOTDOG: finally Karpov returned to play 1.e4
Sep-17-11  Psihadal:

A nice annotation of the game by Chess Network.

Sep-18-11  M.D. Wilson: <krpvksprv: Who said that Karpov doesn't know how to attack? Excellent game.>

Who ever said that?

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  Fusilli: <M.D. Wilson> lol, indeed.

World champions excel at attacking, at defending, at tactics, at strategy, at positional play, at endgames, at openings, at middle games, at evaluation, at instinct, at concentration, at stamina, at fighting spirit... at everything!

The only differences among them concern preferences and style, plus very small differences in strength here and there, now and then.

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  Fusilli: <DCLawyer: ... Wouldn't a 2588 player normally resign after 23.Nf6, with a forced mate that even patzers like myself can see? I wonder if he was in time pressure.>

Not necessarily. There are two reasons to allow the mate.

1) The public. Some GMs allow for combinations to play out to the end or near end for the public's benefit. Nigel Short is known to have done this and has explained it as a courtesy to the public. In this case, Stojanovic could have resigned after Qxh6+ and still meet that goal, but resigning at Nf6 wouldn't quite do.

2) As a show of good sportsmanship to your opponent. He outplayed you and came up with a nice finishing combination. Let him finish with flair.

The common denominator: it's not all about you, or even about the objective position. Chess is a sport, and a public one.

See also this nice example of Portisch asking Kasparov to be mindful of the public: Portisch vs Kasparov, 1981.

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  cSete: Will take some time to go through 4 pages of kibitzing (including YouTube video) All the excellent notations..... a chess lesson in itself. Thanks to all!

One thing that really stood out to me was the play of Stojanovic. To me it seemed very passive....

Feb-23-20  areknames: <One thing that really stood out to me was the play of Stojanovic. To me it seemed very passive> Yes, horrendously so. Black's last chance was 21...e5 forcing the exchange of queens but surrendering a pawn. Karpov would have easily converted his advantage so perhaps better to go down in flames, great game by the former WC.
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