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Franklin Knowles Young vs L Dore
"Dumb L Dore" (game of the day May-30-2014)
Casual Game (1892), Boston Press club, Boston, MA USA, Nov-08
Danish Gambit: General (C21)  ·  1-0



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Feb-24-07  ChessNe1: yes, very nice. a better title: "Locked Dore".
Feb-24-07  casecloser: this was so 1800's type chess, proper defence from black would have won easily
Feb-25-07  WarmasterKron: <uuft> Thom Yorke didn't invent the expression 'the wolf at the door'.

<casecloser> It's easy to find the proper defence when you plug it into Fritz and let it do the thinking for you, it's less easy to find the proper defence when you're sitting across the board from a vicious attack.

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  alexmagnus: I know, it's different page but still - in the Immortal Game the position after Qxa1+ and later Qb2! (instead of Bxg1) is highly unclear.
Feb-26-07  Duque Roquero: The prettiest mate is the quickest. In my opinion 18. Ne5+? (mate in 5) is an inaccurate awkward move. Obviously 18. Nxh8 (mate in 4) is the correct way to play and, for that reason, a much more beautiful move than the text one.
Mar-29-07  gambitfan: a very nice <smothered mate> !

White to play and mate in 5 moves.

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Jul-09-07  jokerman: 1) Nxh8+ Kd8 (1... kf8? 2)Qe7+#!)
2) Ne7+ Ke8
3) Nd6+ Kd8 (3... Kf8 4) Qe7+#!)
4) Qe8+#

so it's mate in 4 :0D

Oct-08-07  syracrophy: The material balance:

♙♙♙♙♙♘ VS ♙♙♙♙♙♙♖♖♗♗♘

But, who cares of the damn material? It's mate! Ladies and gentlemen. IT'S MATE!

Nov-26-07  t3hPolak: *takes a breath*
Oh my God....
Dec-21-08  java77: It seem like the cage!!!
May-10-11  atarw: Why didn't Black capture the knight on move 20?
May-10-11  Jim Bartle: He was in check from the queen as well as the knight.
May-26-11  webadict: <Ashram64> 17 ♘xh8+ is the problem there. You're shoving the Knight into a corner, and expecting the Rook to compensate for everything you just gave up. Maybe I'm seeing things incorrectly, but 16...♔f7 17 ♘e5+ isn't all that great for Black.

1) 17...♔f8 (17...♔g8) 18 ♕f7#
2) 17...♔g7 18 ♕f7+ ♔h6 19 ♘g4#
3) 17...♔e7 18 ♘xc6+ ... 19 ♘xd8 ♗xd8 20 ♖xe8+ ♔g8 21 ♖xh8 ♔xh8 22 ♕e8+. 4) 17...♔e6 18 ♘xc6+ isn't much better. Black's King is out in the open with a hungry Queen and an anxious Rook. I don't see anything forcing in this line right off the bat, but it certainly doesn't look good.

So White manages to get at worst ♕♖ vs ♖♖♗♗♙ with attacking chances.

Sep-08-12  vinidivici: its like immortal game.
Mar-26-14  hudapri: Needs more sacs
Mar-26-14  RedShield: <Dumb L Dore>
May-30-14  MountainMatt: This is the kind of game, if you're the loser, where you swipe all the pieces off the board, flip the table into the winner's lap, and punch him in the face. And you walk away very happy...
May-30-14  pedro99: There is so much wrong with this game that I suspect it was a composition to impress gullible friends....
May-30-14  MelvinDoucet: It's funny, I had a similar game against the computer not too long ago. It's not every day you smother mate the opposing king in the middle of a rank -

1.e4 g5 2.d4 b5 3.♗xg5 ♗b7 4.♗xb5 ♗xe4 5.♘f3 ♘f6 6.♗xf6 exf6 7.O-O ♘c6 8.♖e1 f5 9.♘c3 ♖b8 10.♗d3 ♖xb2 11.♘xe4 fxe4 12.♖xe4+ ♗e7 13.♘g5 ♘xd4 14.♘xf7 ♕c8 15.♕h5 ♘xc2 16.♘d6+ ♔d8 17.♕e8+ ♖xe8 18.♘f7# 1-0

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  naresb: I am reading the e-books by the Winner, Franklin Young--'The Grand Tactics of chess', 'The Major Tactics of chess'. I'm not getting the other one, 'The Minor Tactics of chess'.

In deed the Real Life Battleship strategies are adopted to Modern day Chess.

Looking at the 'Game of the day', the White after loosing almost all the pieces immerges the Winner.

Sincerely hope to see myself a better chess player.

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  OhioChessFan: I think <> crossed the line of having fun with a name vs. making fun of a name with this pun. -100
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  thegoodanarchist: <OhioChessFan: I think <> crossed the line of having fun with a name vs. making fun of a name with this pun. -100>

From the guy who says "Democrat Party" when the name is "Democratic Party".

Lose your hypocrisy.

May-30-14  RedShield: <I think <> crossed the line of having fun with a name vs. making fun of a name with this pun. -100>

What an idiotic comment. It's another masterpiece!

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  keypusher: <thegoodanarchist: <OhioChessFan: I think <> crossed the line of having fun with a name vs. making fun of a name with this pun. -100> From the guy who says "Democrat Party" when the name is "Democratic Party".

Lose your hypocrisy.>


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  kevin86: White sacrifices all of his pieces and is left with just a knight.

To see the knight mate a surrounded king is a pretty picture.

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