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| Feb-20-07 | | ianD: Wow I went to bed and it looks like Carsen gave up a small advantage in a dead even position. Anan is the supreme endgame artist.
Another lesson for Magnus! |
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| Feb-20-07 | | percyblakeney: It looked like it soon could be drawn before 18. g3, such a small inaccuracy but it sure got Carlsen into much trouble... It's a bit hard to understand the move, he can't really have hoped that Anand didn't see the Bxf6 followed by Nxh7 threat. |
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| Feb-20-07 | | Eyal: <you vs yourself: 27.gxf4 gxf4 28.exf4 Rd2 29.Bg6! is a draw.> True - which means that 26...f4? was a serious mistake by Anand. 26...g4 would have been much better - and probably even better a move earlier, because after 25...g4 26.Kf1 Black can place his rook on d2 before the white king reaches e1. So Anand's play in this game wasn't THAT great... |
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| Feb-20-07 | | WarmasterKron: <Sneaky> Chessbucks? You don't know how easy you've got it! If I don't start winning some bets, the loan shark says he's going to break both my legs. |
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Feb-20-07
 | | keypusher: nice game, honza. I never would have expected ...Bxe4 had I been white. Why did you play it? |
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| Feb-20-07 | | admiralnemo: has anyone commented on 18.g3 yet? i'm wondering why not 18.Bxf6 gxf6 19.Ne4 Rg8 20.g3 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Seems better for white and obvious at that. |
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Feb-20-07
 | | Honza Cervenka: <keypusher: nice game, honza. I never would have expected ...Bxe4 had I been white. Why did you play it?> It was the way to get d-file under full control with activation of Rooks + to keep white Qs Pawns blocked. Tactical reason was that after exchange on e4 black Bishop can go on c5 opening thus d-file and attacking Pa3 at once and so white had no time to oppose with his Rook(s) on d-file. Of course, 29.Rd1 was not possible for 29...Bxf2+  but also 29.Rd2 Bc5 30.Rxd8+ Rxd8 was pretty bad for white. In such an ending opposite colour Bishop is no big obstacle for win. |
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| Feb-20-07 | | admiralnemo: oops looks like a couple other people already noticed as well. |
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| Feb-20-07 | | Ulhumbrus: 12 Ne4 lets slip any advantage White may have from his possession of greater space . On 12 Qe2 Black has still to find a way to equalize.
After 15...Bxc5 the position is level.
16 Ng5? begins an attack in a position where White has no advantage. 16 Qe2 may lead to equality but Carlsen may want more and makes possibly an unjustified attempt to win. 17...Kh8! answers the threat of Bxf6 followed by Nxh7 by clearing g8 for the Rf8 so that on 18 Bxf6 gxf6 19 Nxh7 Rg8 escapes the attack from the N with tempo and on 20 g3 Kg7! traps the N. Carlsen prepares Bxf6 by 18 g3? but this not only relinquishes the flight square for the Ng5 after 18...h6, it also blocks g3 as an escape square for the QB after 19 Bxf6 hxg5 20 Bxg6 f6 21 Bf4 e5.After 20..Rc8 the value of White's lead in development is minimal, but the value of Black's powerful QB following g3 by White is not, and this QB is going to help Anand to win the game.Given that 16 Ng5? begins an unsound attack, one question is: How does the unsoundness of the attack lead to its consequence? One question whose answer may help to answer that is : What does the move 16 Ng5? concede to Black? The answer is that it loses a tempo towards answering the threat of ...Bxf3 doubling White's f pawn for the ending. |
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| Apr-08-07 | | acirce: <<you vs yourself: 27.gxf4 gxf4 28.exf4 Rd2 29.Bg6! is a draw.> True - which means that 26...f4? was a serious mistake by Anand. 26...g4 would have been much better - and probably even better a move earlier, because after 25...g4 26.Kf1 Black can place his rook on d2 before the white king reaches e1. So Anand's play in this game wasn't THAT great...> Don't know about that. Anand said there are no real winning chances in such a position with only rooks and bishops, and so even though he knew about the drawing resource he decided to play ..f4!? as a deliberate gamble and a last winning attempt. Unfortunately (for those of us who were rooting for Carlsen) it worked. But then it's not obvious what he hoped for when he declined Carlsen's draw offer after 20.Bb2, perhaps he just wanted to test him a bit. |
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| Apr-09-07 | | Fisheremon: <Atking: Yes Carlsen's 18.g3 is a silly move. I still don't understand why he played it. 18.BxNf6 gxBf6 19.Ne4 the position is equal. But boring.> Right, perhaps 18.g4!? with initiative. That was possible because Black's 13...Nf6?! (13...f5!?) and 14...c5?! After 10.b3 the game was equalized. White should try 10.Ng5!? with same plan, just with Queens presence. It should be noted 27.Be4? losing move and 28...Rd3 also wins. |
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| Jan-15-16 | | RookFile: I think he played g3 because later he wants to play Bxf6 but doesn't want to have to deal with ...Rg8 and ...Rxg2 from black, supported by the b7 bishop. |
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| Jan-15-16 | | morfishine: Where's all the Anand detractors claiming this was "just opening preparation?". Oh, now I see, this game was played in 2007: Anand wasn't old and washed up yet lol ***** |
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Jan-15-16
 | | perfidious: <morfishine: Where's all the Anand detractors claiming this was "just opening preparation?"....> Just. You. Wait.
<....Oh, now I see, this game was played in 2007:> Any fool would know the old man had silicon assistance--his shoes likely were not checked when he left the playing hall. <....Anand wasn't old and washed up yet lol> Anand's major crime was that he was not Kasparov or Karpov, so that by the time his turn came as champeen, he was at best primus inter pares, at worst already a hasbeenusetawas. |
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| Jan-15-16 | | kupton: Anandaconda sounds better |
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Jan-15-16
| | keypusher: <morfishine: Where's all the Anand detractors claiming this was "just opening preparation?". Oh, now I see, this game was played in 2007: Anand wasn't old and washed up yet lol> Is this some new kind of trolling intended to make people feel sorry for the troller? |
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| Jan-15-16 | | qkxwsm: what
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| Jan-15-16 | | kevin86: Anand defeats Magnus in a preview of title bout. |
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| Jan-15-16 | | kamagong24: Anaconda!?
https://youtu.be/LDZX4ooRsWs |
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| Jan-15-16 | | jith1207: Anand has beaten Carlsen twice in this tournament. Those were the days of his empire. Times have changed but overall they have produced enough classics between themselves so far. |
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| Feb-14-16 | | scholes: Anand Carlsen rivaly has some really nice games. I am sure history will remember Anand as one of the stronger champions, despite the whipping he later got from Carlsen. |
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| Aug-20-17 | | ZackyMuhammad: Anandconda |
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| Aug-24-17 | | ZackyMuhammad: The black bishop like a "monster" |
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| Apr-23-18 | | Toribio3: Anand is already on a declining slope of his career. During his prime, he can easily beat super grand master like the current world champion, Magnus Carlsen. |
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| Feb-22-21 | | Gaito: 27.Be4?? was a terrible blunder. After 27.exf4 or even 27.gxf4, the ending would be equal. |
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