chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Samuel Factor vs Francis Morton Currier
"Max Factor" (game of the day Sep-20-2016)
24th Western Championship (1923), San Francisco, CA USA, rd 4, Aug-01
Philidor Defense: Philidor Countergambit. Zukertort Variation (C41)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 107 more games of S Factor
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Mar-05-07  Manic: On Samuel Factor's page, <soberknight> writes <"Fear Factor" (pun potential for games he won).> Seems his pun lost out to Max Factor. As for the game, black's weaknesses on white squares and the "weak" spot f7 were exposed and he got punished deservedly.
Mar-05-07  beginner64: Can black do a little better with 13.. Bxd4
Mar-05-07  Brapp: <beginner64>, I'm not chess genius, but if 13...Bxd4 14.Qxd4 threatening black's rook and the knight fork on f6. If Black plays 14...Rf8 to prevent both, then 15.Nxe7. If 15...QxNe7, then 16.Re1 pinning black's queen. If 15...KxN, then 16. Re1+ Kd8 17.Ne6 Ke8 18.Nc5#.

However, black can avoid that whole mess by moving his king or queen after 14.QxBd4. But then he loses the rook for free with 15. QxRh8. So I suppose black is better off with 13...Bxd4, but he's certainly not in winning form with minus a rook and in poor position.

Mar-05-07  black knight c6: I was going to suggest 8. ... Nd7, but that fails quite badly to 9. Ne6!

Simply the opening looks bad, opening up black's king's weak diagonal, and with the white knight actually having a good reason (trading pawns) to move away to let the queen get at him, with no big weaknesses on white's side to make up for it.

By move 7 white is already taking control of the white squares, f7 and the center, and has 3 pieces out to black's one. Not good in my opinion.

Mar-05-07  Aspirador: Max Factor, sounds a little like Max Headroom.
Mar-05-07  Sleeping kitten: I think that this game was chosen more for the pun than for the play. Black played very poorly.
Mar-05-07  kevin86: Make-UP!!! I liked the final position-sort of a pseudo-smothered mate in which black must give up the queen. Black's play was full of blemishes and it would take a ton of powder and creme to cover it up. lol
Mar-05-07  alshatranji: Not a very remarkable game.
Mar-05-07  Resignation Trap: A better and more important game by Factor: A Simonson vs Factor, 1936 .
Mar-05-07  uuft: I'm betting on the Pun Factor as well here... Even I do not remember playing this badly.
Sep-20-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: Now this is the sort of GOTD I don't like. Not necessarily because Black plays badly, but because White doesn't have to play well or do anything extraordinary. In other words, there is nothing memorable about the game.

I wonder if I can tempt you into looking at a different Factor game instead:

Factor vs N Whitaker, 1929

Yes, it's only a draw, but it's well worth the trip.

Sep-20-16  AlicesKnight: Another nail in the Philidor when it is not handled accurately - White's gain in space and momentum tells against lacklustre Black moves. At move 6 White is 3 tempi ahead in development and Black never shelters his K properly after ....f5.
Sep-20-16  morfishine: <Phony Benoni> Thanks for the Whitaker draw, very well worth it :)
Sep-20-16  drunknight: @Phony Benoni/morfishine:

White should have won that game (Factor vs N Whitaker, 1929)with 29.d7+ followed by 30. Qe1+.

Sep-20-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  catlover: Thanks for the link. Looks like Samuel Factor played some impressive games. Of course, back in the twenties and thirties his last name wasn't quite so pun-worthy.
Sep-20-16  kevin86: Was Sam a prime Factor? he was able to impose his attack before the opponent got the defenses set up.
Sep-20-16  ajile: I have an old book on this opening I think by Jim West. Considered better to play against experts and lower but as far as I know it is not 100% refuted.

There is a page though that claims a refutation which I am checking out now:

http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/...

Sep-20-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  eternaloptimist: <Phony> I submitted a game for GOTD that got picked back in 2012. I think Factor was tactically alert by spotting the shot 25.♘xh7!. He played it b/c he noticed that the ♖ on f8 couldn't move anywhere & that Gilg would be forced to play 25...♙f6 or suffer a very quick demise after 25...♔xh7?. If Gilg would've chosen to prolong the game a while longer, then shortly afterwards Factor could've played ♘xf8 which would've won the exchange for him & given him a winning advantage. Here it is.: Factor vs Gilg, 1928
Sep-20-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: What happened to the Avon lady? Max Factor!
Sep-20-16  waustad: Currier dives.

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Make Up!!!!
from Pun games/funny positions by kevin86
March 5: Max Factor
from Game of the Day 2007 by Phony Benoni
urba's favorite games
by urba
SMOTHERED MATES
from MATES STALEMATES by gambitfan
SMOTHERED MATES
from GAMES OF THE DAY by gambitfan
Rpimd 4 (Wednesday, August 1)
from US Open 1923, San Francisco = 24th Western Champ by Phony Benoni
Mates de la Coz
by trovatore
Philidor
from Opening Disasters by Funology
17 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection X by wwall
Philidor Countergambit. Zukertort Var (C41) 1-0 Factor that!
from 1Hammer the 6th Rank (Black hits 3rd Rank) III by fredthebear
Philidor
by ISeth
Philidor Countergambit. Zukertort Var (C41) 1-0 Factor that!
from Mashed Potatoes Fed Fredthebear's Clan by fredthebear

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2023, Chessgames Services LLC