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Veselin Topalov vs Viswanathan Anand
Morelia-Linares (2007), Morelia MEX, rd 1, Feb-17
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Feb-17-07
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  Sneaky: Anybody want to buy a cheap "Most Moves = Topalov" chessbookie ticket?
Feb-17-07
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  WannaBe: Draw!! I told you so in the Handi-Capper's corner!!
Feb-17-07  cannibal: Are you sure it's already drawn??
chesspro.ru has 29... Qb5 30. Qxa5 Nd5
Feb-17-07  Whitehat1963: I'd like to thank Topalov and Anand for contributing their ideas to our all-important correspondence game with Shulman! Thanks guys. I'm certain that's what you had in mind every step of the way. ;-)
Feb-17-07  Ulhumbrus: Topalov does not repeat 14 a4 with which he won against Anand at Corus and it may indeed not have been as bad for Anand as the result suggested. With 22...Nd5 Black has a superbly placed N which may provide enough compensation for White's bishop pair.
Feb-17-07  Udit Narayan: nice game.
Feb-17-07  Atking: Yes a good game still I can understand that 21.Bxc6 is not as good 21. ...Qc8 then 22. ...cxb and if Bb5 black Queen will be in b7 and if Bishop keeps the diagonal (For if Bf3) black Queen will be in d7. But why not 21.Bf1! ? With a5 and Qf3 this move looks more challenging.
Feb-17-07  Tactic101: Yeah. Once the queenside pawns are exchanged off, there is no way that one side will get a plus. White has the bishop pair, but black has better pawn structure. I hope there are some descisive games in the next round.
Feb-18-07  Fisheremon: <Atking: Yes a good game still I can understand that 21.Bxc6 is not as good 21. ...Qc8 then 22. ...cxb and if Bb5 black Queen will be in b7 and if Bishop keeps the diagonal (For if Bf3) black Queen will be in d7. But why not 21.Bf1! ? With a5 and Qf3 this move looks more challenging.> But 20.Bxc6 could give White a serious advantage.
Feb-18-07  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 22 Qxc4, 23 bxc5 maintains a phalanx . However then 23...Nb4 keeps White's Q out of c2 or a2 and on 24 Ra1 the d4 pawn is pinned and invites ...c5
Feb-18-07  ivan999: Topalov has turned himself into a D4 player.
Feb-18-07
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  Ron: <ivan999: Topalov has turned himself into a D4 player.> My impression is that Topalov plays either D4 or E4. He might be playing D4 lately because he probably prepared for defenses to D4 from Kramnik in their recent match, and so can use that preparation in tournaments.
Feb-18-07  Shajmaty: <Ulhumbrus: Instead of 22 Qxc4, 23 bxc5 maintains a phalanx . However then 23...Nb4 keeps White's Q out of c2 or a2 and on 24 Ra1 the d4 pawn is pinned and invites ...c5> Black is O.K. after 23. bxc4, Ne7 (23...Nb4? 24. Rb1!). 23. Qxc4 was all Vesko had to keep an edge... not enough, anyway. Bravo, Vishy!
Feb-20-07  Atking: <Fisheremon:> Sorry I didn't see your comment. On 20.Bxc6 is not really advantageous. 20. ...Rac8 21.B moves (Be4 orBf3 or Bg2) 21. ...Qa3 after that Black pills on d4. White has a Bishop pair but no pawn to make of it. For example a passed pawn on Queen side. Topalov's 20.a4 is a good try. But in all the position (Isolated d4 for 2B) is to much balanced.
Feb-20-07  Fisheremon: <Atking: <Fisheremon:> Sorry I didn't see your comment. On 20.Bxc6 is not really advantageous. 20. ...Rac8 21.B moves (Be4 orBf3 or Bg2) 21. ...Qa3 after that Black pills on d4. White has a Bishop pair but no pawn to make of it. For example a passed pawn on Queen side. Topalov's 20.a4 is a good try. But in all the position (Isolated d4 for 2B) is to much balanced.> 20.Bxc6 Rac8 21.Be4 Qa3 22.bxc4 Nxc4 23.d5 exd5 24.Bxd5 with next Bb3. In the endgame White's Bishops could dominate in the struggle with pawn a.
Feb-21-07  Atking: <Fisheremon: 20.Bxc6 Rac8 21.Be4 Qa3 22.bxc4 Nxc4 23.d5 exd5 24.Bxd5 with next Bb3. In the endgame White's Bishops could dominate in the struggle with pawn a.> Simply 22. ...Rxc4 keeps the control of d5 23.Bd3 Rc7 and Rfd8&Bf6 xd4 Black could be a bit better but pratically it's draw.
Feb-21-07  Fisheremon: <Atking: <Fisheremon: 20.Bxc6 Rac8 21.Be4 Qa3 22.bxc4 Nxc4 23.d5 exd5 24.Bxd5 with next Bb3. In the endgame White's Bishops could dominate in the struggle with pawn a.> Simply 22. ...Rxc4 keeps the control of d5 23.Bd3 Rc7 and Rfd8&Bf6 xd4 Black could be a bit better but pratically it's draw.> After 22...Rxc4 same 23.d5 exd5 24.Bxd5 Rc8 25.Bb3 etc.
Feb-27-07  Atking: <<Fisheremon:> After 22...Rxc4 same 23.d5 exd5 24.Bxd5 Rc8 25.Bb3> To say that 24. ...Rc7 may be more flexible after 25.Bb3 to see a <the endgame> in which <White's Bishops could dominate in the struggle with pawn a.> it's beyond my capacity 25. ...Bf6 26.Rab1 Qe7 isn't draw ? I don't know if you analyse with a computer. I suspect that a program may evaluate 2B a bit better than B+N here but pratically I fail to see a way for a serious advantage.
Feb-27-07  Fisheremon: <Atking: <<Fisheremon:> After 22...Rxc4 same 23.d5 exd5 24.Bxd5 Rc8 25.Bb3> To say that 24. ...Rc7 may be more flexible after 25.Bb3 to see a <the endgame> in which <White's Bishops could dominate in the struggle with pawn a.> it's beyond my capacity 25. ...Bf6 26.Rab1 Qe7 isn't draw ?> You might notice a nuance in 24...Rcc8 and 24...Rc7, as 24...Rc7 25.Rd3 Qc5 26.Rc3 Qd6 27.Bxf7+ Rxf7 28.Rd1 etc.
Mar-02-07  Atking: Thanks <Fisheremon:> to answer consistently to my question. If I understand what you mean, 25.Rd3 with a bishop still in d5 Then 25. ...Qa4 with enough light squares under control may playable too. 26.Bb3 Qc6 27.Rc3 Qb7 28.Rac1 Rd7 / 28.RxRc7 QxRc7 29.Bd2 Bf6 30.Rc1 Qd7 / 28.Bc2!? g6 or 27.Bd2 Bf6 28.Rc1 Qe8! 29.QxQe8 RxRc1+ or 27.Rad1 Bf6 28.Qg4!? (For a4) 28. ...Qb7 29.Bb4 Qc8. I can understand that Black is in difficulty if all Q and R are exchanged but I fail to see how that is possible. Queens on the board or, one rook in each side it wil be difficult to disrupt that position. Isn't it? Always ready to learn something from you. Thanks again.
Mar-02-07  Fisheremon: <Atking: Thanks <Fisheremon:> to answer consistently to my question. If I understand what you mean, 25.Rd3 with a bishop still in d5 Then 25. ...Qa4 with enough light squares under control may playable too. 26.Bb3 Qc6 27.Rc3 Qb7 28.Rac1 Rd7 / 28.RxRc7 QxRc7 29.Bd2 Bf6 30.Rc1 Qd7 / 28.Bc2!? g6 or 27.Bd2 Bf6 28.Rc1 Qe8! 29.QxQe8 RxRc1+ or 27.Rad1 Bf6 28.Qg4!? (For a4) 28. ...Qb7 29.Bb4 Qc8. I can understand that Black is in difficulty if all Q and R are exchanged but I fail to see how that is possible. Queens on the board or, one rook in each side it wil be difficult to disrupt that position. Isn't it? Always ready to learn something from you. Thanks again.> You're very welcome. At 27 move I'd prefer 27.Rad1 with solid positional advantage.
Apr-14-08  AAAAron: THE most frustrating part of chess is the draws, I cannot for the life of me understand this or any other draw for that matter. Repitition by three fold I can understand......but not this. I mean black is up a pawn, and its a frickin passed pawn. Anyone????
Apr-14-08  cannibal: <AAAAron: Repitition by three fold I can understand......but not this. I mean black is up a pawn, and its a frickin passed pawn. Anyone????>

And how about you play on in your mind for, lets say, one move?

Apr-14-08  Kwesi: <cannibal> lol
Apr-16-08  AAAAron: did i just get served???
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