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| May-27-07 | | nimzo knight: <nhat> qg6+ wining the e8 rook (at least) |
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| May-27-07 | | nimzo knight: 27.. Qa7 again 28. Qg6+ Qg7 29. Qxe8+ Kh7 30. Qe4+ ... and white is all set to win with 2 extra pawn and exposed black king |
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| May-27-07 | | nimzo knight: sorry 30. Rf7 wins the queen. So white has job done here |
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| May-27-07 | | vesivialvy93: Missed !! too hard for me , but the kind of position Tal would have solved even in his bed 5 minutes before he died |
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| May-27-07 | | MJW 72: Black has no peices in danger. White's postion is not strong enough to push black off the borad. So, it is clear that this is a king hunt. The only realistic possiable way to get to the king sunday stlye is Nd5. I saw a few cute lines but there is no way I would play or see this in a real game. |
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| May-27-07 | | bogo78: < But can Black survive after 23...Bxh5[...]? > A nice deviation from the line you present is at 25 Rb7 Re8 26.Qd7. Black loses material to avoid mate. |
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| May-27-07 | | outplayer: I simply don't understand the need of 21...Be8. |
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| May-27-07 | | outplayer: That variation is terrible for black. That's why I prefer 5...e5. |
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| May-27-07 | | Marmot PFL: I was about 99% sure that Nd5 was the move, but thought just maybe after yesterday they might throw in Rd5 for variety. However both rooks turn out to be required. Probably black should have guarded e6 with Bd7 instead of Kf7, then he would still have 0-0-0. |
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May-27-07
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: 6.5 out of 7, best weekly result in quite some time. Why 6.5? Because I didn't see all of the key moves in this Sunday puzzle. Anyone else looking forward to Monday? |
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May-28-07
 | | patzer2: The Sunday May 27th puzzle solution 20. Nd5!! initiates a demolition of pawn structure sacrfice designed to obliterate
Black's pawn cover and give White a crushing positional attacking advantage, as after the not-so-quiet but crushing move 27. Rf1! |
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May-29-07
 | | kevin86: Again,like yesterday,the intrusion of the knight at d5-leavs black in a tizzy. It then takes the powerful long rangs pieces to wrap it up very quickly. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | Brenin: Material is equal, and Black's weak spot is h5, so let's cut his Q off from defending it with 20 Nd5. If 20 ... exd5 then 21 Bxh5+ Kf8 (21 ... Rxh5 22 Qxh5+ Kf8 23 exd5 looks very risky for Black) 22 exd5 Bxd5 23 Qd7 Rxh5 24 Qxe7+ Kg8 25 Qxf6 Bf7 26 Rd3 Rg5 looks like a draw, so instead one could try 21 exf5 Bxd5 22 Bf3, so that 22 ... Bxf3 allows invasion with 23 Qe6+, and 22 ... Bc4 allows 23 Bxa8 Rxa8 24 b3 Bd5 25 Qxh5+ Kf8 26 Rxd5. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | stacase: The Black Queen supports the h5 Pawn. 20.Nd5 starts the fun. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | mel gibson: I missed this one too.
Stockfish 14 agrees with the game line:
20.Nd5
(20. Nd5 (♘c3-d5 e6xd5 e4xd5 ♗c6xd5 ♗e2-f3 ♗d5-c4 ♗f3xa8 ♖h8xa8 b2-b3
♔f7-f8 b3xc4 b5xc4 ♕h3-e3 ♕c5xe3 ♖e1xe3 ♔f8-f7 ♖d1-d5 ♖a8-b8+ ♔b1-c1 h5-h4
♔c1-d2 ♖b8-b2 ♖d5-h5 ♗e7-d8 ♖h5xh4 d6-d5 ♖h4-h7+ ♔f7-g6 ♖h7-d7 ♗d8-a5+
♔d2-c1 ♖b2xa2 ♔c1-b1 ♖a2-a4 c2-c3 ♖a4-a3 ♖e3-g3+ ♔g6-f5 ♖d7xd5+ ♔f5-e6
♖d5-c5 ♗a5xc3 ♔b1-c2 a6-a5 ♖g3-e3+ ♔e6-f7 h2-h3 ♗c3-b4 ♖e3xa3 ♗b4xc5 ♖a3xa5
♗c5-d4 ♖a5-a4 ♗d4-e5 ♖a4xc4) +4.35/37 180)
score for White +4.35 depth 37. |
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Apr-10-22
 | | agb2002: White has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair. The black queen protects h5. This suggests 20.Nd5 with the idea 20... exd5 21.Bxh5+ Kf8 22.e5 dxe5 23.Rxe5 fxe5 24.Qf5+ and mate in two. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | Brenin: <agb2002: ... This suggests 20.Nd5 with the idea 20... exd5 21.Bxh5+ Kf8 22.e5 dxe5 23.Rxe5 fxe5 24.Qf5+ and mate in two.> I think this line is refuted by 23 ... Be8, halting White's attack, allowing counterplay with Rc8, and giving Black good winning chances. After 21 Bxh5+ Kf8 White does better to play 22 exd5, leading to a draw. An immediate 21 exd5 is stronger. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | TheaN: Was a bit too focused to make the interposing on d5 as forced as possible so let the rook go first, but after 20.Rd5? exd5 21.exd5 Be8 -+ White's actually lacking firepower to really do much; he's missing the rook on d1 to reload after Rxe7, were White to use the game line in the Rd5 variation. Had to take an additional minute here. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | Sally Simpson: It is one of those when in puzzle mode where you see Nd5 right away. I never bothered working out the rest, I just knew that would it because it is a set problem. However fairly confident I would have picked out the follow up. That bit was routine, once you have sacced a piece don't hold back tossing in more material (23.Re7!) But....going though the game. I know me.
Here.
click for larger viewInstead of 19.Be2 prepping the Nd5 sac. I would have played 19.Nd5 right away. Probably very dodgy but too interesting to pass by. It might work, it might not. It's just a game. |
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| Apr-10-22 | | Stanco: Sally, it's not just a game, it's more important!😀 I knew it was 20.Nd5 followed with 22.Bh5+ but didn't bother myself with the lines.
I find it quite tricky after 21...Be8, but is solvable. |
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Apr-10-22
| | henilsson: Youaredeliberatlyruiningyourbrandandreputationby-
allowingcommentslikechrisowendayafterdaycongratu-
lations! |
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Apr-10-22
| | whittaker: <mel gibson> That's only the game line for 3 plies. What does SF say about 21 ... Be8? Also what about 23... BxB? |
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| Apr-10-22 | | Stanco: comeacowcowyickyyickyyea |
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| Apr-10-22 | | TheaN: <henilsson: Youaredeliberatlyruiningyourbrandandreputationby-
- allowingcommentslikechrisowendayafterdaycongratu-
- lations!>
And this adds to it? I've already answered to you on another puzzle why CG probably allows chris' posts to continue: it's not auto-generated and contains some form of structure that's consistent. If you don't want to see it, put him on your ignore list. Putting emphasize on it in another comment is just silly. |
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Apr-11-22
| | agb2002: <Brenin: <agb2002: ... This suggests 20.Nd5 with the idea 20... exd5 21.Bxh5+ Kf8 22.e5 dxe5 23.Rxe5 fxe5 24.Qf5+ and mate in two.> I think this line is refuted by 23 ... Be8, halting White's attack, allowing counterplay with Rc8, and giving Black good winning chances. After 21 Bxh5+ Kf8 White does better to play 22 exd5, leading to a draw. An immediate 21 exd5 is stronger.> I noticed later, thank you!
I had a few minutes to write my post and although I did see exd5, the rook maneuver looked more interesting but it was a very superficial impression. |
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sac: 23.Rxe7