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Sergey Karjakin vs Vladimir Kramnik
Corus Group A (2007), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 1, Jan-13
Russian Game: Nimzowitsch Attack (C42)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jan-13-07  Eyal: It can be a draw by repetition now: Nf6-Rh4 etc.
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  Mateo: 32.f3? Nxc3, Black wins a pawn. After 30.g4 it seems that Kramnik improved his position. The position looks equal.
Jan-13-07  madlydeeply: instead of g4 white should have put his bishop on e5 and brought the f pawn to f4.

I think Kramnik can win this game

Jan-13-07  samikd: I think Black will win if anybody does
Jan-13-07  madlydeeply: I think its fascinating how these super GMs can win "drawish" games
Jan-13-07  samikd: Does anybody know what happened in the Topalov game ? Aronian drew as far as I know
Jan-13-07  Eyal: 32.Rh5 is as good as a draw offer, really, and very possibly Kramnik has nothing better here than to accept.
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  plang: This is an unusually cautious start to this tournament.
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Jan-13-07  square dance: topalov-motylev is one of those pawn-locked slavs with doubled pawns on the b-file for white and g-file for black. it appears to be dead even. i'll post the fen on the corus page.
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  suenteus po 147: Shirov-Svidler is almost drawn after one more repetition.
Jan-13-07  square dance: van wely-radjabov please. it appears to be the most interesting game of the day, and the most likely to be decisive.
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  suenteus po 147: Speak of the Devil...and the Devil appears.
Jan-13-07  Gouki: A draw against the World Champion!

careful play by Kramnik without taking any serious risks. good game

Jan-13-07  slomarko: <careful play by Kramnik without taking any serious risks> the usual boring stuff
Jan-13-07  su24: <slomarko: <careful play by Kramnik without taking any serious risks> the usual boring stuff >

The usual boring stuff. You sound like a broken record.

Jan-13-07  s4life: it's a little boring to replay though... just my opinion.
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  Sneaky: Typical Kramnik: he had no intention of winning the game at any time, he wanted to destroy any and all imbalances (even if it meant undoubling White's pawns), and when a draw by repetition was available he honed in on it like a hawk. If he only did this with the Black pieces it wouldn't be so nauseating, but just watch, tomorrow we'll see him employ the same strategy with the White pieces.
Jan-13-07  Karpova: <Sneaky: If he only did this with the Black pieces it wouldn't be so nauseating, but just watch, tomorrow we'll see him employ the same strategy with the White pieces.>

Do you expect something like this:
Topalov vs Motylev, 2007 ?

Jan-13-07  positionalgenius: <sneaky>Yes,his draw ratio at corus is very high.However all of the GMs,save radjabov and van wely,chickened out.Actually this game was the longest of all the drawn games.
Jan-13-07  slomarko: longest and the most boring
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  nasmichael: Every game will not be fireworks. Sometimes, for the draws at least, I wish the times taken per move would be informative, as it would allow the less-experienced players and kibbitzers an inlet to the thought processes of the real players, to see where they paused to check the consequences of any given move in relation to both their own plans and their opponents' plans. In so doing the kibbitzer may be more likely to understand the given pressures of the moment, the need for aggression or of patience, not only in the viewed game itself, but the long-term plan in relation to the scores of the other players. The ChessMaster who is looking for a win at every move is less frequently seen than the many who are minimizing losses--in the same way that the Altruistic person is part of a smaller population than the many egocentric folk; and the Leader personality steps out far less frequently than the many "sheep"-minded folk, who are more willing to follow others blindly. The microcosm is a reflection of the macrocosm--even at this site, which I enjoy immensely. I think this was a decent game--although I do not savor each move in this gamescore with relish. If every game was a standout blockbuster, pretty soon the masses of games would be easier to ignore. The essence of an exemplary game is one that stands out from the rest. In this sense, games like this are inevitable--they are part of the masses of games from which the "Brilliant" one will step forward and be especially noticed.
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  AgentRgent: <Sneaky: If he only did this with the Black pieces it wouldn't be so nauseating, but just watch, tomorrow we'll see him employ the same strategy with the White pieces.>

Care to apologize?

Kramnik vs Shirov, 2007

Jan-15-07  ajile: 15. Ng5 looks interesting since if Black takes the Knight it opens the h file.
Jan-15-07  Stevens: my pre game prediction

<i'm going for a draw in 32 moves>

wasn't bad was it?!

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