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| Feb-19-13 | | patzer2: <lost in space: I saw 19. Nxf7 Kxf7 20. Qxe6+ Kf8 21. Bd6#> Me too! It's demolition derby time (i.e. demolition of pawn structure combination theme) with 19. Nxf7!, and the Black King can't capture the pawn wrecking Knight without getting mated. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | ZUGZWANG67: If 19...Rf8 then 20.Nd6 Qa6 21.Qxe6+ wins 2 pawns.
This is typical problems for a 3 rank defence: no good squares available for your pieces! :) |
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| Feb-19-13 | | SamAtoms1980: This puzzle made me think of this game, even though it's not quite the same thing: W Von Holzhausen vs Tarrasch, 1912 |
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| Feb-19-13 | | Abdel Irada: I used to know someone who routinely used "fsck" in place of a well-known profanity ... or so I thought. Only now do I recognize it as a veiled reference to Kanefsck. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | M.Hassan: "Easy"
White to play 19.?
Equal
19.Nxf7
<if...Kxf7 20.Qxe6+ Kf8 21.Bd6#> 19.........Rf8
20.Nxh6+ Kh7
21.Ng4
Knight gains two pawns and lands on a safe square.
Time to see how the game was played |
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Feb-19-13
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: Kanefsck's opponent was probably the one saying "fsck" here. Or, more likely, "Porque no te vas al gran carajo?" |
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Feb-19-13
 | | agb2002: The material is identical.
The light squares around the black king are momentarily weak. This suggests 19.Nxf7, attracting the king to a mating net: A) 19... Kxf7 20.Qxe6+ Kf8 21.Bd6#.
B) 19... Re8 20.Nd6 + - [R+P vs N].
C) 19... Rf8 20.Nxh6+ + - [2P].
D) 19... Kh7 20.Nxd8 + - [R+P vs N].
E) 19... Nh5 20.Bxh6
E.1) 20... Kxf7 21.Qxe6+ Kf8 22.Qe7+ Kg8 23.Qxg7#.
E.2) 20... Bxh6 21.Nxh6+ Kh7 22.Ng4 + - [2P].
E.3) 20... Rf8 21.Bxg7 again two pawns ahead.
F) 19... g5 20.Nxd8
F.1) 20... Qxd8 21.Qxe6+ + - [R+P vs N].
F.2) 20... gxf4 21.Qxe6+, etc. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | holy tramp: Yeah Black had trouble seeing White's plans here- even using a Cristobal. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | Abdel Irada: You have to understand that what Black had here was a Ruben Cristobal, which shows nothing but an enticing view of a popular sandwich. This limits the options for clairvoyance. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | morfishine: <19.Nxf7> Threatens 20.Nxd8 plus 20.Nxh6+ <19...Rf8> White mates after
19...Kxf7 20.Qxe6+ Kf8 21.Bd6 # <20.Nd6 Qd8 21.Qxe6+ Kh7> Black's position is a shambles **********
PM1: I don't see a huge difference in 19...Rf8 & 20...Nf8; Since the Knight is immune after sacrificing on f7, the Knight will continue its rampage unabated until the game is effectively over PM2: I noticed that White didn't have to grab the exchange; After 20.Nxh6+ Bxh6 21.Bxh6 Kh7 22.Bxf8 Rxf8
23.Qxe6 Qxe6 24.Rxe6
click for larger viewBy simply simplifying, White is up 3-pawns |
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| Feb-19-13 | | Abdel Irada: <morfishine>: In your PM2, I don't think 21. ...Kh7 is Black's best. Stronger appears 21. ...Re8, holding the e-pawn and greatly prolonging the game. Black is still much worse and will eventually lose, but I think taking the exchange (to be returned later in return for that selfsame third pawn) *was* simplifying and probably the more efficient course. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | Oxspawn: White appears o be able to break open the black position due to the weakness of the f pawn. 19. Nxf7
if
19.........Kxf7
20. Qxe6+ Kf8 (forced)
21. Bd6++
If
19. Nxf7 Re8
20. Nd6 forks rook and queen I guess it would continue 20...... Qc2
21 Nxe8 Qxf4
22 Nxg7 Kxg7
23 Qxe6
And white has a rook, bishop and two pawns for bishop and knight. I suspect I have missed something better for white after black plays Qc2... |
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| Feb-19-13 | | morfishine: <Abdel Irada> I see your point though 'greatly' seems a stretch; Black already was able to drag it out even after losing the exchange Either way, as you noted, Ruben's getting sandwiched :) |
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Feb-19-13
 | | HeMateMe: Pretty straight forward. Black can lose two pawns and the exchange or immediately get mated. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | maxfrank: In the game, 21d5 with the idea ...cxd5 22cxd5 exd5 23Nxd5 NxN 24Qc4. Wonder what engines like in move 21? |
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| Feb-19-13 | | zb2cr: Found this. I have nothing to add to the commentary posted by <Patriot>, <lost in space>, <FSR>, <Abdel Irada>, <patzer2>, <ZUGSWANG67>, <agb2002>, <morfishine>, and <Oxspawn>. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | chrisowen: Needed in flight I accedence 19.nxf7 in his aim, cinch in cooped up pieces again cruise a wave in cashing back begot head for heights free cap in light knight a lip in afore match in crikey it is camp i chuckings 19.Kxf7 20.qxe6+ a lick our black king boot off rim in see freedom I cage light rook here backings fab ko good in afraid it horded 20...kf8 21.bd6# |
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Feb-19-13
| | chrisowen: As i said incase of a wasting move like a fastening, 19...Nf8 in a hope for low having got, in free call light oomph 20.nxd8 Qxd8 in see edge for open shute light, pawn up plus the exchange should go on to win forges the path queen in etc i seekings essays i neck e6 a binding ace in the knight cackle free
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in burning effigy it cloy in. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | gawain: I saw (after a long think) the mate after 19 Nxf7 Kxf7. How can d6 and e6 be so unprotected at this stage of the game? Surprising. After a longer think I decided that Black is positively lost even if he refuses the knight. Difficult puzzle for a Tuesday in my opinion. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | whiteshark: What <zb2cr> said... |
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| Feb-19-13 | | James D Flynn: Material is equal even down to the square colour of the Bs but Black is somewhat cramped and seems to have overlooked the obvious pseudo- sacrifice of the N on f7:
19.Nxf7 Re8(not Kxf7 20.Qxe6+ Kf8 21.Bd6#) 20.Nd6(if Nxh6 Bxh6 21.Bxh6 Kh7 White has won 2 pawns and exposed Black’s K and should obviously win, but White remaining pieces cannot be readily mobilized on the K-side and the pawn on h3 inhibits attacks by the Rs on the h file so material gain looks better) Qa6 21.b4 (there is no hurry to win the exchange when the Q is isolated on a6 and subject to attack ) Rac8(to defend c7 if the c3 N retakes after b5, if instead b5 c5 leaves the Q hopelessly entombed) 22.b5 cxb5 23. Nxb5 threatening to win 2 exchanges) Qh5(ifQh4(ifRe7 24.Bd6 Rf7 25.Qxe6 and the R is lost)24.b3 Qb4 26.Bd6 wins the Q) 25.Bd2 Qh4 26.Rb1 Qa6 27.Nxe8 Rxe8 28.Nc7 Qc8 29.Nxe8 Qxe8 30Qxe6+ Qxe6 31.Rxe6 White is up 2 pawns and 2Rs versus 2 Ns so the endgame is hopeless for black. |
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| Feb-19-13 | | kevin86: The knight sac leads to a quick win. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | ZZpatzer: First move not so hard, Nxf7. It's one of those "move first, ask questions later" kind of puzzles. Endgame trainer link: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... |
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| Feb-19-13 | | Patriot: <ZZpatzer> Thanks for the link. After the third try or so I finally won in a rook and pawn ending. |
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| Feb-20-13 | | snakebyt: I chose Nxf7 threatens his Rook but hoped he would take with pawn so my Queen can take Pawn and check. That didn't happen. |
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