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Christophe Bouton vs Tatiana Grabuzova
16th open (2000), Cappelle La Grande FRA, rd 4
French Defense: Steinitz Variation (C11)  ·  1-0



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May-09-07  nummerzwei: Got it, although I had to think for a while. I had also thought that the key move would break up the c4/d5/e6 pawn structure, but then I saw 24.Rg4. First I was under the impression that 24...QxQe5 25.RxRg8+ was mate, but then I understood that white can simply play RxQe5 when he´s a rook up.
May-09-07  vagrantlike: Good one.I also blundered and chose 24Qxd5 without any anticipation of the quiet response:24...Qxe1!Thw only correct response which turns the situation upsidedown.
May-09-07  DexterGordon: Hey folks, does this line also win?

24. Re3 Qb4 25. Rb3 cxb3 26. Rxb4 Rxb4 27. Qc7 or Qd6?

Hm, on the other hand, forget it. There's no mate as I thought at first. :-(

May-09-07  crwynn: 24.Rxd5 is certainly not an alternate solution; White is probably even lost after 24...Qxe5 and 25...Rxg2. But it was that which led me to 24...Rg4, looking for a tempo move with the rook that discovers an attack on Black's queen.

This seems to be an easy week, although now that I've said that they will probably start clobbering us with hard puzzles.

May-09-07  fblin: To Sontsovka17: After 24. Qxd5 follows Qxe1!
May-09-07  outplayer: I thought about 24.Rxd5 a little then I decided to move 24.Rg4. It's stronger. A quite easy wednesday puzzle.
May-09-07  zb2cr: Rats, missed it. I thought 24. Rxd5 was right.
May-09-07  erasmusdurer: I liked 24. Qc7 with the idea of 25. Qe7 mate. Does anyone have time to analyze this?
May-09-07  barcafan: 24. Qc7 results in a quick checkmate for black after 24...Qxd4.
May-09-07  Tactic101: I first considered Qxd5??, but Qxe1! (knocking off the pinning piece) ends that hope. Rxd5 wins a pawn, but Qxe5 and Rxg2 restores material equality. And Qxb8 results in Qxd4+ So, let's look at Rg4.....

Yep, seems to win. Rg4!! is a cool move, attacking the queen and the ROOKS simultaneously. Black is busted. Rxg4 leads to black losing his queen, QxQ and Rxg8 followed by RxQ and Qxe1, Kxe1, Rxg4 and Qxb8, winning a rook. Black is dead. Good puzzle.

May-09-07  Silverstrike: <Tactic101> I've e-mailed my move to you. All the best!
May-09-07  crwynn: <I first considered Qxd5??, but Qxe1! (knocking off the pinning piece) ends that hope. Rxd5 wins a pawn, but Qxe5 and Rxg2 restores material equality>

It's quite irrelevant since White can win in one move, but you know this line restores Black's material *advantage*, not equality. In puzzles it's usually pretty unimportant that somebody is a pawn up, but it's good to make a habit of noticing that kind of thing.

May-09-07  Tactic101: <Silverstrike> Great! Let's continue.

<CRWynn> My mistake. A better line would be "and white has achieved nothing and is losing". This line just indicated my thought process. I reached Rg4 after some thought.

May-09-07  YouRang: I had the same thought as <DexterGordon>, 24. Re3 Qb4 25. Rb3!! looked pretty good, so I jumped at it.

Later, I saw that I jumped the gun. First of all, after 24. Re3, black's better response is 24...Rg5! Secondly, I completely failed to notice a basic discovered attack tactic on the unguarded black queen. Shame, shame.

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  kevin86: I tried all sorts of moves here,but missed the best. The attack is rather unusual. An attack on two undefended pieces by pieces of equal rank-with a check as a kicker. It reminds me of a gambling game.

Jason challenges Jared to a wager:there are two aces,two kings,and two queens on a table. Jason places a dollar on the table and Jared does likewise. Jason askes Jared to take a pair. Jared picks the two aces.

Then Jason picks the two dollars!

May-09-07  Marvol: Darn... after like 15 minutes (!) I was certain that the d4 rook was pinned and so, whatever the move was, it couldn't be with that rook.


I guess I could have played ...Rg8 here, sucker I am. **slaps himself**

On the other hand, these problems posed as a position sec are so much more difficult than OTB, because then you have already looked at the position, it is in your head... so when the opponent moves you merely have to check what has changed. Here that would have been that ...Rg8 exposes the rook to an attack (undefended piece) and I guess OTB Rg4 would have been so much easier to find than in a puzzle.

May-09-07  TheaN: I actually looked at

24. Rxd5?

24. .....-Qxe4
25. Rdxe4-Rxg2

and although white has a centered Rook and somewhat control over the e-file, his King is absolutely not save on d1, will get in trouble with the c1 Bishop, the h2 pawn and the f6 pawn. Probably 0-1 after Rxg2.

Take note that 25. Rexe4 is not much better, as white has no effective attack on the black King and the pin of e5, however defending, is not useful in the attacking options. White will just be rushed over after black takes g2.

May-09-07  newton296: my candidates were qxb8 , bd2, re3 , never considered rg4 as rook is pinned in my mind to my q! oops! only after I saw rg4!! it started to make sense!! lol!
May-09-07  THE pawn: Excellent puzzle. I completely missed the refutation starting with Qxe1.
May-09-07  greystar69: I also started with 24. Re3 Qb4, but then played 25. Ba3 Qb1+ 26. Kd2 Qb6

Surely white can make something of this attack . . . but it is not as clear cut as the solution.

May-09-07  jahhaj: I'm with <YouRang> and <DexterGordon> 24.Re3 Qb4? 25.Rb3! wins, although it's complicated, but 24.Re3 Rg5 is not so clear.

I completely missed the correct move.

May-09-07  wals: Completely missed it, what a dill.
May-09-07  Raskolnikov: A bad day for Tatiana: first her loss is presented at then she lost with French (again, she should have known it!!) against Shadrina in Russian Club Championship An interesting game BTW
May-09-07  Zorts: I agree with Nimzo Knight "...a very regular move with a double-attack." These are of the utmost instructive.
May-09-07  TopaLove: This is the quote of the day: "I have seen two geniuses in my time. One was Tal. The other was Fischer."

This is my quote of the day: "I have seen two geniuses in my time. One was me. The other I saw in front of the mirror".

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