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Sjestov vs Krovatkin
RUS corr (1997) (correspondence), Russia
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch. Closed Variation (E87)  ·  0-1



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Nov-10-06  thesonicvision: i immediately noticed that if the
white queen weren't on f4...
Qxc4+,KxQ, Bb5#
then i quickly saw that the rooks
could be placed on e4 since white had no immediate checks.

however, i didn't calculate the rest
of the sequence. i pulled a tal
and just assumed black would win
after sac'ng the exchange due to
white's open king and the loose
rook on h1.

Nov-10-06  melianis: B-QN5 and QxQB4 wins the exchange or mates.
Nov-10-06  Ch3ckmate: this was my first friday puzzle i cracked. is this normal friday or was this one just easier?

Nov-10-06  Eurotrash: 28...Bb5 was my choice as well
Nov-10-06  percyblakeney: I actually got this one, trickiest move for me was 31. ... Qc2.
Nov-10-06  melianis: Quite normal for a friday... You get some you lose some; This one I did lose, and did not get either, so the proverb doesn't always apply.
Nov-10-06  Larsker: I did not solve this one correctly - but I enjoyed going through the solution move by move. Great puzzle.
Nov-10-06  NBZ: <dwojiow> 28. ... Rxd2+ 29. Qxd2 Bb5 30. Bxb5 Qxb5+ 31. c4 and the attack comes to a halt.

28. ... Bb5 29. Rxb2 Bxc4+ 30. Qxc4 Re3+ 31. Kxe3 Qxc4 32. Rb7! and the white kings is stalemated, the h7 pawn is very dangerous and if white can get his other rook into play the result could be deadly.

In the final position, Qxf2 Rxf2 Kxf2 appears to fork the rook and bishop but Rf3+! (or Bxe4 which is less spectacular) Kxf3 Bxe4+ maintains the extra piece.

Nov-10-06  NBZ: oops after Rxf2 I meant Ke3
Nov-10-06  kcb: NICE!
Nov-10-06  supergrobi: I saw the idea of the queen sac, but needed very long to find Re4. Then I missed that after 30...Qxc3+ White can simply play Rd3, so I stopped after 30...Qxc3+. (Probably I was too happy after I've finally found Re4. At least I didn't give up too early this time and found a part of the solution.)
Nov-10-06  zb2cr: Saw 28. ... Re4; 29. fxe4, Qxc4+ and stopped there, foolishly assuming the capture was forced.
Nov-10-06  Chicago Chess Man: We should keep in mind this was a correspondence game; black had plenty of time to work out the compliations
Nov-10-06  Ravelin: Hey, check this out: what happens after 29. ... Rb4 ?
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  Peligroso Patzer: The idea of breaking the White Queen's contact with c4 was fairly obvious, but the rest was not (obvious). Very nice attack by Krovatkin.
Nov-10-06  YouRang: I had to laugh a little when I saw this puzzle. It looks so much like one of those inscrutable composed mate-in-3 puzzles, where the king is near the middle of the board, but it can't move and it's surrounded by an array of opposing pieces with all kinds of complex pins in play.

I couldn't solve it (I looked at 28. Re4, but didn't notice that after 29. gxe4 Qxc4! 30. Kxc4 Bb5 was mate.)

Oh well. At least I got a little laugh out of it. :-)

Nov-10-06  XadrezBrasileiro: I looked at the B mate and saw Re4, but I didn't calculate out the sequence, I jsut assumed it was the best move =p, that's the kind of play that nets me positive results against 2000+ and negative results against 1400s.
Nov-10-06  YouRang: Just noticed that white had another interesting (and maybe stronger) continuation after 32. Qf1:


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If the white rook moves to d1 or across, then Qxe4#.

If 33. Rd4, then ...Qc3+, the white rook falls, and pretty soon it's gonna be mate (or white will give up the queen to stop mate).

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  kevin86: I missed this one-I did see some of the nuances,but couldn't put it together. I am in the ♗b5 camp-I did try ♖e4 at first,but abandoned it-shame!
Nov-10-06  Holmstrom: I saw Re4 fxe4, Qxc4+ Kxc4, Bb5# and that seemed promising enough.
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  playground player: Glad I had some company in opting for Bb5! By the way, I wonder if anyone else has found that trying to employ sophisticated, top-drawer tactics sometimes doesn't work against players who don't know what they're "supposed" to do next.
Nov-10-06  clausantos: I saw Bb5. And after some minutes I saw Re4. Is not easy, for me.
Nov-10-06  YouRang: <playground player><By the way, I wonder if anyone else has found that trying to employ sophisticated, top-drawer tactics sometimes doesn't work against players who don't know what they're "supposed" to do next.>

I think I know what you mean. You try to lure your opponent into a trap, but it doesn't work -- not because your opponent saw the trap, but because he didn't even see the lure!

On the other hand, if a tactic requires the opponent to see the lure, perhaps it can't really be described as "top-drawer". :-)

Nov-10-06  franksp: It took me a while to see at the end why White was defeated. 35 Qxf2 Rxf2+ 36 Ke3 attacking both Black Rook and Bishop. However 36... Bxe4 attacks the White Rook leaving Black a Bishop ahead.
Nov-10-06  LPeristy: W00t, A friday puzzle I actually got!!
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