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Nov-16-10 | | Pencho: That was the time Topa played his best chess..Sadly he failled to win the title that in my opinion he deserved. If we don't count the 5th game it woudl've been 3:2 for Kramnik.However it should've been 3:2 for Topa.. It's all about game two - first Topalov missed the win after Kramnik's 31st move, then he missed a forced draw and ended up loosing a game he should've won. Realy sad story. |
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Oct-24-11 | | AnalyzeThis: Not really. The better player won. |
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Jan-08-13 | | notyetagm: Kramnik vs Topalov, 2006 Game Collection: FORCING MOVES SHOW YOU WHERE THE PIECES *REALLY* 44 ... Rc2xc5?? does not remove guard due to 45 Rb6-b7+! 1-0 |
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Jan-08-13 | | notyetagm: Kramnik vs Topalov, 2006 Game Collection: FORCING MOVES SHOW YOU WHERE PIECES *REALLY* ARE 44 ... Rc2xc5?? does not remove guard due to 45 Rb6-b7+! 1-0 |
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Jan-08-13 | | jussu: One think keeps puzzling me: Topalov had this same "obvious" blunder available on move 43, but instead he firs gave that strange check, driving white king to a move active square, and only then grabbed the pawn. I mean if Rxc5 actually didn't blunder the rook, would you prefer 43... Rxc5 or 43... Rc2+? |
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Jan-08-13 | | notyetagm: <jussu: One think keeps puzzling me: Topalov had this same "obvious" blunder available on move 43, but instead he firs gave that strange check, driving white king to a move active square, and only then grabbed the pawn. I mean if Rxc5 actually didn't blunder the rook, would you prefer 43... Rxc5 or 43... Rc2+?> Good point. But as a big Topalov supporter at the time, I clearly remember Topalov's play be marred by several horrible ?? moves. |
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Dec-29-13 | | thegoodanarchist: 21...Nxc3?? forks the White rooks, but after 22.Bxe7+ White is winning. |
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May-18-15
 | | offramp: <jussu: One think keeps puzzling me: Topalov had this same "obvious" blunder available on move 43, but instead he firs gave that strange check, driving white king to a move active square, and only then grabbed the pawn. I mean if Rxc5 actually didn't blunder the rook, would you prefer 43... Rxc5 or 43... Rc2+?> That is a brilliant observation!
Watch this for a real oddity:
Two years earlier Kramnik is playing Leko in the last game, the 14th game, of the Kramnik - Leko World Championship Match (2004). He is losing 2-1 and needs a win to draw the match and retain his title. It is sort of similar to this game: a final crunch game that decides the title. Here is what I wrote about this position, which appeared after Kramnik as white played 34.f4!
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Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 <Leko analyses that he can't take the d-pawn, so what does he do? 34... Ra2+ 35.Kf3 Ra3+ 36.Kg4. And now, having chased the king into the centre of the board, he resumes his attack on the d-pawn!
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36...Rd3. As if the attack might work *now* - now that the white king is so much better placed.> I think that is a strange coincidence that in two final games both challengers made a pointless rook check. |
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Mar-10-19
 | | HeMateMe: It was a great match. I don't know if anyone thought VK was going to come back from a point down due to the forfeit for leaving the playing area too many times. I was wondering why a player of Topalov's caliber would make the exchanges that would leave him uncastled and behind in development. |
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Mar-10-19
 | | offramp: It is very good that today's GotD title is by <rcs784>. I looked at his page and saw that he has been a member <since Mar-07-09>. Ten whole years, imagine! |
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Mar-10-19 | | Kirth Gersen: I feel like Offramp is perpetrating some of his occasionally-impenetrable humor here. But this is a pretty good byline for the game, recalling the title unification that I think was very good for chess, however people side on the old Kramnik-Topalov hatefest. And the final position is a nicely compact illustration of the poor King's inability to dance at 2 weddings (on b8 and c5). |
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Mar-10-19
 | | offramp: I remember Toiletgate clearly. Kramnik went to the toilet 106 times in 106 minutes, resembling one of those chase sequences in Scooby-Doo. The people who sided with Topalov in the scandal tended to be Bulgarian loners and Flat-earthers. People on Kramnik's side tended to be university graduates in full-time employment with stable families who gave frequently to charity and were fluent in more than one language and had all their own teeth. I was sort of in the middle.. |
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Mar-10-19
 | | Korora: The pun's a reference to Agatha Christie's psychological horror masterpiece, I suppose? |
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Mar-10-19
 | | offramp: <Korora: The pun's a reference to Agatha Christie's psychological horror masterpiece, I suppose?> Could be. The Christie book has about 5 titles, two of which are no longer printable. I played a French computer game based on the Christie novel and it was indeed called...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agath... <And Then There Were None>. The title refers to how many people enjoyed the game. |
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Mar-10-19 | | Kirth Gersen: I'm sorry Offramp, but you clearly don't remember Toiletgate clearly, or you would've remembered that Kramnik managed to reroute all Elista Internet access through his toilet stall, as proven by various photos from reknowned journalist Silvio Danailov. |
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Mar-10-19 | | Jack Bauer: Ufframp's the second most trustworthy source after <Odd Lie>. |
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Mar-10-19 | | cormier: 29. Rd1 better is 29.Ra7+ Kf6 30.Rd1 Rb1 31.Rxb1 Bxb1 32.f3 e5 33.Kf2 Bf5 + / = +0.78 (31 ply) 29... Rb2 better is 29...Be4 30.Ra7+ Rb7 31.Ra3 Rcc7 32.f3 Bc6 33.Kf2 e5 = +0.10 (33 ply) |
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Mar-10-19 | | dumbgai: Ah, to be reminded of Toiletgate in 2019...
The funniest thing about that whole story IMO was that afterwards Kramnik confirmed there was actually no such thing as "Kramnik's toilet" because one bathroom was for the player with the white pieces and the other for the player with the black pieces. They were alternating bathrooms for every game. It's funny because 1. It makes Topalov pointing out the cable in the ceiling as supposed "proof" of cheating look even more ridiculous;
2. It highlights the complete failure of Kramnik and his team to handle the situation appropriately. Nobody thought to point out this highly important fact until after the match. |
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Mar-10-19 | | rcs784: <Korora> Very close. Both my title and Agatha Christie's are references to the classic children's rhyme Ten Little Indians: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten... |
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Mar-11-19
 | | HeMateMe: These days if you were at a chess tournament and asked "to use the white toilet" there might be trouble. Someone might call CNN. |
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Mar-11-19
 | | ChessHigherCat: <dumbgai: Ah, to be reminded of Toiletgate in 2019...>
<The funniest thing about that whole story IMO was that afterwards Kramnik confirmed there was actually no such thing as "Kramnik's toilet" because one bathroom was for the player with the white pieces and the other for the player with the black pieces. They were alternating bathrooms for every game. > Why "Kramnik confirmed"? More like Kramnik alleged that there was no such thing as his own toilet, but I seem to recall that Kramnik had specific modifications done so that he could pace back and forth in his toilet. That means that Kramnik's still "full of it" despite his innumerable trips to the john. |
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Mar-11-19
 | | perfidious: <HMM>, yeah, it's PC in the ascendancy, babee!! Just imagine Kramnik, thirteen years on:
<Where's that wretched pissant Topalov? How about that dang fool Danailov? They back en la toilette <again>? They ain't careful, I'm gonna sick the crack detectives over at CG on 'em and run their worthless carcases to earth!> |
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Mar-12-19 | | cormier:  click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4 d 25 dpa done
1. + / = (0.41): 33...Bc2 34.Rc3 Ba4 35.c5 Bb5 36.Bxb5 Rxb5 37.c6 Rbc5 38.Rcc1 Ke7 39.a4 Kd8 40.f4 Rxc1+ 41.Rxc1 Ra5 42.Rd1+ Kc7 43.Rd7+ Kxc6 44.Rxf7 Rxa4 45.g3 e5 46.fxe5 Rg4 47.Kf2 Kd5 48.Kf3 h5 49.h3 Ra4 50.Rxg7 h4 51.g4 Kxe5 52.Re7+ Kf6 53.Re3 Kg5 54.Re5+ Kf6 55.Re4 Ra1 56.Re3 Rf1+ 57.Ke4 Kg5 2. + / = (0.51): 33...Rd2 34.Ra7 Rb2 35.Rc1 Rc5 36.h4 e5 37.Rc3 Rd2 38.Rb3 Bf5 39.a4 Be6 40.Rb5 Rc8 41.Rbb7 Ra2 42.a5 Ra1 43.Kf2 Rc5 44.a6 Rc6 45.c5 Rxc5 46.Rb2 Rc6 47.Be2 Rd6 48.h5 Ra3 49.Ra8 Bd5 50.Rc8 Rdxa6 51.Bxa6 Rxa6 52.Rd2 |
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Mar-12-19 | | cormier:  click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4 <d 24 dpa done1. = (0.04): 26...Nxb3> 27.axb3 Rhd8 28.Rxd8 Rxd8 29.f3 Rb8 30.h4 h5 31.c5 Kd7 32.Bc4 Kc6 33.Ra5 Rb7 34.Kf2 Bc2 35.Rxa6+ Kxc5 36.Ra5+ Kb4 37.Rxh5 Bxb3 38.Bxb3 Kxb3 39.Rc5 Ka2 40.Ke3 Kb2 41.Kd4 f6 42.Rc6 Rb4+ 43.Kc5 Rxh4 44.Rxe6 Rh5+ 45.Kd4 2. + / = (0.34): 26...Rhd8 27.Rxd8 Kxd8 28.Nxc5 Rxc5 29.Rxa6 Kc7 30.f3 Rc6 31.Ra3 Rd6 32.Kf2 Rd2+ 33.Ke3 Rd1 34.Be2 Rg1 35.Kf2 Rc1 36.h3 Kb6 37.Ke3 e5 38.h4 Rc2 39.g4 f5 40.gxf5 Bxf5 41.Rb3+ Kc6 42.a3 Ra2 43.Bd3 Bxd3 44.Kxd3 Rh2 45.Rb5 Rxh4 46.Rxe5 |
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Mar-27-21 | | Brian.elkhoury: Is there a footage of this event ? |
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