Jul-02-06 | | Xaurus: So this game ended Carlsen's great 26 win streak.
I think this game will be a valuable lesson for him.
34. Qf3 is probably worth ?? . |
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Jul-02-06 | | notyetagm: <Xaurus: So this game ended Carlsen's great 26 win streak.> That's 26-game -unbeaten- streak. He did not surpass Steinitz's 25-game win streak or Fischer's 20-game win streak, at least not yet. :-)
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Jul-02-06 | | Xaurus: <notyetagm>Yeah of course, doh. I meant unbeaten-streak. :-) |
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Jul-02-06 | | chessmoron: 34. Kg1 might able to save Carlsen by drawing against Shipov. |
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Jul-04-06 | | Atking: On move 25.Nxa5 White is clearly pawn up and better. I don't know if it's enought but if White had plaid with a peacefull draw in mind he'll have got it. Here 26.Qb5 QxQb5 27.RxQb5 Rxc2 28.Nxb7 d3!!? is interesting. But on 29.NxRd8 d2 30.Kf1!(30.Rf1 Nd4! with 31. ...Ne2+ and 32. ...Rc1) 30. ...Rc1 31.Re5 I doubt of Black's compensation. Else 26.g4!? as 26. ...Ne3 27.Re2 Nxg4 28.Qb5. I think that Carlsen overplaid himself by a first 26.R1e2? |
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Jul-04-06 | | russian bunny: I agree.
26. Nb3 was probably better. keeping the advantage on white's side. |
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Sep-06-11
 | | al wazir: If 45. Qxd4, then 45...Qa3+. But white lost the exchange two moves later anyway. |
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Sep-06-11 | | paavoh: @atking: <On move 25.Nxa5 White is clearly pawn up and better> Well, maybe a pawn up but definitely not better. White looked awfully passive already at move 20, with no active play on the K-side as usual in the French and Black having achieved the thematic d5-d4 advance. The battery on e-file was shooting at nothing. |
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Sep-06-11
 | | rodchuck: Pun isn't bad but wouldn't <Shipov war> be even more to the point? |
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Sep-06-11 | | ventricule: I don't understand 34. ... d3 , why can't Carlsen take the pawn ? |
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Sep-06-11 | | whiteshark: < ventricule: I don't understand 34. ... d3 , why can't Carlsen take the pawn ?> If <35.cxd3 Nd4> forks ♕f3/♖e2 winning the exchange. After, say <36.Qe3 Nxe2> there is also another black threat with ... f5 winning the ♘e4 due to a pin |
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Sep-06-11 | | ventricule: And 35. Qxd3 ? |
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Sep-06-11 | | goodevans: In case anyone's wondering ...
77 Kh3 gxh4
78 Kxh4 Kf4
79 Kh3 Rh1
80 Kh4 Rxh2#
or similarly
77 Kh3 gxh4
78 Ng4 Rh1+
79 Nh2 Kf4
80 Kxh4 Rxh2# |
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Sep-06-11 | | Blunderdome: <rodchuck> "Ship off to war" is a stock expression. "Ship of war" isn't a term I've ever heard; I think "Warship" is what we call those things. |
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Sep-06-11
 | | Sastre: <ventricule: And 35. Qxd3 ?> 35...Rfd8 36.Qb3 Nd4 37.Qd3 Nxe2 38.Qxe2 f5 . |
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Sep-06-11 | | whiteshark: <Sastre: <ventricule: And 35. Qxd3 ?>
35...Rfd8 36.Qb3 Nd4 37.Qd3 Nxe2 38.Qxe2 f5 .> Right! The same move 36...Nd4 etc will also be the answer to the remaining sensible moves 36.Qb3 and 36.Qb5. It's kind of funny how ♕d3+♖e2 stand in the path of each other. |
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Sep-06-11
 | | kevin86: A few better puns-IMO
Shipov fools
or that spoony phonerism:Shipov or shape out...
I thought the blockade was going to hold,but black was able to break through,after all. |
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Sep-06-11 | | cormier: 21.Bd3? |
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Sep-06-11 | | cormier: 15.c3 |
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Sep-06-11 | | ventricule: Thanks <Sastre> and <whiteshark>. It's a pretty neat combination, I didn't see the queen was that stuck. |
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Sep-06-11 | | polarmis: Shipov gave a wonderful commentary on this game at ChessPro - I translated a little of it, and some of his comments on Carlsen, here (you need to scroll down a bit): http://www.chessintranslation.com/2... |
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Sep-06-11 | | SuperPatzer77: <goodevans: In case anyone's wondering ... > <goodevans> Your analysis is much better than mine. Of course, it is simple as that. 77. Kh3 gxh4 (better than 77...Kf4) as follows:
1) 78. Kxh4 Kf4, 79. Kh3 Rh1, 80. Kh4 Rxh2#
2) 78. Kxh4 Kf4, 79. Kh5 Rh1 (winning two pieces: knight and f-pawn)  3) 78. Ng4 Rh1+, 79. Nh2 Kf4, 80. Kxh4 (forced) Rxh2# SuperPatzer77 |
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Nov-26-13 | | Captain Hindsight: <34.Kg1! > would have been just about the only chance. |
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