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Alexey Shirov vs Aleksey Dreev
Karpov Poikovsky (2006), Poikovsky RUS, rd 9, Mar-27
Caro-Kann Defense: Advance Variation (B12)  ·  1-0



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Mar-28-06  suenteus po 147: No comments yet on Shirov's tournament winning game?! This game is brand new and already it is giving me headaches. My problems start with 14.Kf1 (why not 14.c3?) and don't end for a long, long time....
Mar-28-06  zev22407: I think that after 14)c3 the B moves and the Queen has to protect the N on b3,
Mar-29-06  Canuck16: Black chooses Karo-Cann in a match where a draw means a tie for 1st place and a loss means a 4-way tie for 2nd ?

That seems crazy to me. Maybe I'm just not familiar enough with Caro-Kann to understand this decision.

Mar-31-06  alicefujimori: <Canuck16>Please refer to this game.

P Charbonneau vs Dreev, 2005

<suenteus po 147><My problems start with 14.Kf1 (why not 14.c3?)>14.c3 might have blocked the check, but Shirov's king would still be stuck in the centre, which means the king will get in the way of the rooks. Besides, castling isn't really an option in the position anyway, so why waste a move to block the check when he could use that check to move his king to g2?

I think Dreev's first mistake was 21...Rxh5 and he missed white's 22.Rhe1 and Dreev went on to lose the exchange.

A move I don't understand though was 35.Bf8. Wasn't Bd2 followed by Bg5 a better plan?

Mar-31-06  babakova: <alicefujimori> No I dont think 35...Bd2 is good simply because white will play 36.d5 and if ...cxd5 37.Rcd4 Bg5 38.Rxd5+ and black is much worse.
Mar-31-06  Canuck16: <alicefujimori> Trying to torture me by showing my country-folk getting obliterated ? LOL.

But seriously, as much as I root for him, Pascal is not Shirov...

I don't think I would ever play C-K against a player rated as high or higher than me...that's a disaster waiting to happen...

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