| Jan-20-06 | | Unicornio: Is this guy serious???
another draw, what a boring player, Kramnik must be happy, he is replacing him and playing exactly like he would have done. |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | Ivan23: Do you have something against chess draws in general or against this particular draw? If first, than you should find another hobby, if second you are just full of s**t. |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | aw1988: Unicornio, why are you blaming the early drawers? If Kramnik for instance were looking for a quick 2 move draw and say Leko refused... well, he now has to prove it, doesn't he? It's fully an option of both players. |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | Dres1: It looks to me like these guys are trying. |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | aw1988: Well, yes, I just meant that in general, he seems to have a horrible disdain for certain draws. I didn't mean this game, of course. |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | Ybrevo: Please focus on the game instead. It has a lot of strategic ideas from the beginning. What I especially focus on is Gelfands odd Queen-moves. First 8. - Qe7, then back again (13. - Qd8), and 5 moves later Qc8. That seems to be a lot of waste of tempi in the opening and early middle-game. Isn´t there any way White could have punished that? Any suggestions? |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | Unicornio: <Ivan23> welcome to my ignore list. |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | LancelotduLac: <Unicornio> The problem is that you only look at the final result and not at the game itself. Mamedyarov is already responsible for playing the Black side of one of the most fascinating games in the tournament (Topalov-Mamedyarov, my personal favorite so far), and this game, too, features fighting chess and interesting ideas by both sides. All draws are not created equal! |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | Unicornio: You are right, it was a very interesting game, but the other 5 draws he played nice?? |
|
| Jan-20-06 | | Boomie: Looking at the opening, 5. Qc2 is unusual. Perhaps Shak wanted to enter uncharted territory, reasoning that he couldn't challenge Gelfand's opening repertoire. Just about everyone plays b3 here, although Uncle Fritz seems to prefer Nbd2 or Qa4. As black equalizes effortlessly with 5...c5, Qc2 is dubious at best. 8. e4? is a blunder, losing a pawn to Qe7. Better than 9. Bd3 is 9. Bc4 Nxd5 Qe2. Gelfand stumbles with 10...Nc6? whereas f5 keeps up the pressure on e4. This leads to an amusing line. 10...f5 11. O-O fxe4 12. Bxe4 Ne3 13. Bg6+ hxg6 14. Qxg6+ Qf7 15. Qxf7+ Kxf7 16. fxe3 Kg8 17. Nc3 d5. 12...Ne3 is a hoot. 16...Ncd4 returns the pawn for less than nothing. Better was 16...Na5 17. Bd5 Bxd5 18. Rxd5 Nc4. Also good was 16...Kh8, preparing f6. However the game is probably a draw in either case. |
|
| Jan-21-06 | | ahmadov: <Unicornio:> Draw is a normal result for both chess fans and sponsors, but it depends what kind of draw you are talking about. A short draw is a disappointment for both chess fans and sponsors. When I say a short draw I mean a game of 15 or less moves. There are a number of draws played by great players that went down chess history as masterpieces. To tell the truth, as a Mamedyarov fan, I am happy with his draws in this tournament. They are not short ones and are full of fighting spirit. If you cannot distinguish differences between short and meaningless draws and good games then you have to improve your understanding of chess. |
|
| Jan-21-06 | | Jafar219: Ahmadov,shahmatdan xeberi olmayan bele adamlarla mubahise etmeye deymez.Evvel axir her sheyi zaman gosterecek. |
|
| Jan-22-06 | | Boomie: <Unicornio> Here's my favorite draw. There may be a lot of adjectives describing it but "boring" isn't one of them. Anand vs Topalov, 2005 |
|
Kibitzing
