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B Dodgson vs Raymond Keene
U.K. Open Teams (1985), England, May-04
Caro-Kann Defense: Bronstein-Larsen Variation (B16)  ·  0-1



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  ray keene: this is an interesting game because black is playing on both sides of the board and in the centre simultaneously.first of all black has to avoid losing the isolated h pawn for nothing-then he has to attack whites weakened q side and thirdly the only avenues of breakthrough involve smashing open the centre with --c5. i recall at the time thinking that this was one of the most difficult strategic games i had ever played.
Dec-04-05  BadTemper: beautiful.
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  ray keene: <BT> glad you liked the game-its never been published before apart from on this database. btw congrats on yr 500 point rating increase in one year-do that again and you will become a gm!!
Dec-04-05  hayton3: Nice one Ray - how do you rate this opening by the way for black - underrated? Suitable even at the higer levels?
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  ray keene: the only dangerous line in my opinion for black is for white to play 6c3
7nf3 once the black qb is on f5
then 8g3

the idea is to make whites k side bomb proof and then attack blacks king with the fianchettoed b if it castles q side which is what black wants to has various resources but this is the sole line i consider a serious theoretical test.

oddly enough if black plays 5---exf6 another of my favourites, the sole serious test in my opinion , is again 6c3!<H3> hope that answers the question!

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  ray keene: one more thing about this game-i had never heard of dodgson when i played him and i have never heard from or of him since-i have no idea what his rating was if any- he certainly had no title ( correspondence perhaps??) i expected to beat him easily but it was a very tough struggle where he played -i assume-way above his normal level and forced me to find what i consider to be a very deep plan and more or less the right move at each critical stage. for this reason i have a much greater fondness for this game than for many others i have won against far stronger opponents.does anyone know who this guy is? i wd quite like to know!
Dec-05-05  hayton3: Thanks Ray for a most insightful snapshot into this opening - indeed c3 appears to be a very constructive waiting move.
Dec-05-05  BadTemper: I'm not exactly a grandmaster or a genius opening theorist, but I firmly believe that any opening where black releases the tension in the center so quickly after trying to fortify it from the flank as such, has to be bad. I'm not saying it's losing by force (maybe it is), but why exchange? Just seems wrong somehow, my intuition i guess... Even though you were black and won, really I can't explain....
Dec-05-05  euripides: Campora vs Morozevich, 1994 was Morozevich's last outing in this opening in this databse, so he may agree with <Ray>'s assessment.
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  ray keene: campora v morozevich is certainly the kind of hazard black has to avoid!
Jun-26-08  mack: Was white any relation to Lewis Carroll?
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  perfidious: <ray keene> While I played 5....gxf6 twenty times or so, no-one ever played 6.c3 Bf5 7.Nf3 with 8.g3, and I agree that it's the most testing option for Black-always liked the positions I got from the line White played in the following game, though!

Gipslis vs Seirawan, 1988

Aug-08-11  LIFE Master AJ: Nice game by RK.

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