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Mikhail Tal vs Raymond Keene
Simul, 20b (1964) (exhibition), London ENG, Jan-10
Caro-Kann Defense: Classical Variation (B18)  ·  0-1

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Oct-29-05
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  WannaBe: Fine game!! Wonderfully played. =)
<Mr. Keene> You were 15/16 then? Do you remember your rating then? Can you give some annotation or thoughts while you were playing this simul? Thanks!
Oct-29-05  thathwamasi: <Mr.Keene> Even I would luv to see ur comments on this game..thanks
Oct-29-05
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  ray keene: thoughts during the game

1 sit down to face tal-general expectation- a gory loss embellished with tal -like sacrifices

2 he plays e4--i played the caro kann-it was my main defence at the time-i had just won the london under 18 championship and i had played it several times during that event-notably against kenny harman--i also played taimanov and lowenthal sicilians at the time but thought this might be too provocative against tal

3 10---nd5 instead 10--bd6 allows the famous nxe6 sacrifice fromtals first match against botvinnik which tal was still prepared to repeat in games as late as 1978. i wanted to avoid tals vastly superior knowledgew of this line so chose something to try and dampwn down whites attacking prospects.

4 11 qg4 this is the error altho it looks absolutely plausible. it was later discovered that 11 bxd5 cxd5 and now either qg4 or qh5 gives white a huge attack.

5 15 rad1 all this looks like vintage tal to keep blacks king stuck in the centre-and my next move looks like i am co-operating in my own demise by grabbing a hot pawn against tal of all people

6 15--bxc2 this almost seems like desperation but in fact i was no longer very worried-whites c pawn was a very useful unit and its loss now causes white problems-my main worry was that tal wd still find some way to sac on e6 and explode my position before i cd get castled

7 16--h5 a decoy to gain time after 17nxh5 bg6 18nf4 bf5-tal hardly even thought about taking the pawn and slowing down-he kept his queen fixed on e6 where he clearly still wanted to sacrifice

8 19 rd7 the only way forwards now, but blacks position is secure

9 21---kxd7 so it has come to pass and black never got castled-white now also starts to rip up the black kings side-but i was happy-two rooks for a queen and the bishop pair and soon some open lines too

10 25--bd2 now i knew i had him on the run-tal thought for a while and gave up his knight

11 28 ---be4 defending and attacking-whites threats are now illusory

12 30..bh2+ a sac finishes white off-i was very pleased of course to beat tal in a war of movement -not just by simul induced blunders--and i felt the choice of opening had been psychologically a good one-i was fortunate tho that tal did not discover the probable refutation of blacks inovation with 11 bxd5.

Oct-29-05  aw1988: Fascinating! Thanks a ton.
Oct-29-05  Whitehat1963: How does the following play out: 27. Qe7+, king moves, 28. Qxf7?
Oct-29-05
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  ray keene: black has many promising lines-even i think bh2+
Oct-31-05
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  WannaBe: Thank you <Mr. Keene>. =)
May-04-06  jackmandoo: I wish more GM's were here like Mr. Keene to annotate their games, this was so instructive. i suppose they are afraid of chessplayers like me using their annotation against them.
May-05-06  GarryBonaparte: What might have been...

Had Keene been born in Russia?

May-18-06  TenFeetTall: This must have certainly been a
thrilling experience for young Keene, who played a brilliant game here.
May-18-06  dakgootje: Interesting annotion (as always ;-)

but why is white that much better if he trades off the knight at d5 first and then playing Qg4 or Qh5 instead of the direct Qg4, does it make that much differance?

May-18-06  Runemaster: <dakgootje> Perhaps Mr Keene will answer, but for what it's worth, I think that allowing Black to play 11...Nxf4 eliminated an important White attacking piece - the knight on f4 was the most likely piece to be sacrificed on e6 to break open the Black position. 11.Bxd5 would have kept the f4 knight and in conjunction with 12.Qg4 or 12.Qh5 would have given White promising attacking chances.
May-18-06  dakgootje: <Runemaster> Yups, might be true, but Tal also could've sacced the bishop instead on e6. But i've got to agree with you that its probably one of the better possibilities
Nov-11-06  s4life: lovely game <Mr Keene>, and thanks for the comments.. they add a nice touch of dramatism to the whole ordeal.
Nov-11-06
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  ray keene: <runemaster> belatedly spotted your comments-yes you are right about that
Nov-16-06  clocked: <7 16--h5 a decoy to gain time after 17nxh5 bg6 18nf4 bf5-tal hardly even thought about taking the pawn and slowing down-he kept his queen fixed on e6 where he clearly still wanted to sacrifice>

Actually, the sacrifice now works with instead 18.Bxe6! Rxh5 19.Bd7+ Ke7 20.f4!

Nov-16-06
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  ray keene: interesting idea-your own analysis or computer inspired-does it go further? tal didnt think for a second before declining the pawn-perhaps he had a -no-one sacrifices against me-frame of mind in simuls? if bxe6 does work in this position it wd certainly be a classic tal sac!
Sep-22-07  King mega: Good game, Mr. KEene, You beat MIkhail TAL!
Dec-21-08  YoungEd: I join the others, GM Keene, thanking you for the interesting annotations. White looks busted by move 22. I played around a bit with 23. Nxe6, but Black's king is surprisingly safe on c7.
Mar-12-17  sho16: Ray Keene is good, but kind of a show off. If you notice, he only annotates his winning games, not his losses. A loss can also be very instructive
Mar-12-17
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  Dionysius1: Yep, but he's a professional. It's his job: he needs to make the best of what he achieves in order to earn. I don't blame him for that, and meantime we get hundreds of games self annotated in a lively and widely liked way.
Mar-12-17  morfishine: Great game <GM> Keene! Wonderful play all around, and you not yet a GM, very heady and exciting stuff!

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Mar-15-17
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  Dionysius1: And besides, look at Ray Keene's kibitzing at Spassky vs Keene, 1973

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