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| Oct-13-05 | | HammerTime: hence the draw |
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Oct-13-05
 | | keypusher: Great game, great fight by both players. |
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| Oct-13-05 | | peters4n6: kindly point out the 3-fold repetition to us novices, thanks! |
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| Oct-13-05 | | HammerTime: kasim is 35th ranked, now he will be among top 8 |
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| Oct-13-05 | | HammerTime: go to that lil one and play by yourself now and find out |
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Oct-13-05
 | | Richard Taylor: Congratulations to the new World Champion Veselin Topalov! - Topalov played geat chess- he is now the World Champion - Kramnik and Fischer etc are out of it - ther is no one else - - Topalov played great chess - the draws were nearly all "fighting " draws. And is understandble - to take a draw to win the tournament. It is Topalov's time. |
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Oct-13-05
 | | chessgames.com: The servers in San Luis have suddenly retracted all moves after 42.Rxd5. It could be that the moves that follow that were not really played. Perhaps the players moved the pieces after the game was concluded, e.g. to demonstrate a variation, and the computerized board picked it up. |
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| Oct-13-05 | | zapzowie: What a display of superiority demonstrated by Topalov in this tournament. A truly deserving champion. I look forward to the two million dollar match with Kramnik. |
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Oct-13-05
 | | Gypsy: Is this realy a draw? 47...Kxh4 48.Kxf4 g2 ... and 49.Kf3 Kh3 50.c7 Rf8+ 51.Ke4 Kh2 does not look very good for White 52.Kxd5 g1Q 53.Rxg1 Kxg1 54.Kd6 Kf2 55.Kd7 Ke3 56.c8Q Rxc8 57.Kxc8 Kd4 58.Kb7 Kc4 59.Kc6 Kb3 60.Kc5 Kxa3 61.Kc4 Kb2! ... and Black wins. |
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Oct-13-05
| | Gypsy: So, the moves <42. R8xd5 cxd5 43. Rc1 Rxb2 44. c6 Rb8 45. Kg2 f4 46. Kf3 Kg5 47. h4+ ...> may get retracted. I have some doubts that the position is a draw, however. |
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| Oct-13-05 | | Dionyseus: <Gypsy> Your line <42.R1xd5 cxd5 43.Rg8+ Kf6 44.Rxg3 Rxb2 45.Rc3 Rb3! 46.Rc1 Rxh3 47.Kf2(!) Rh7 48.c6 Rc7 49.Ke3 Ke6 50.Rc5...> has two errors The first error in your line is 49...Ke6, Ke5 would be better.
The second error is a big blunder. After 50.Rc5 black simply plays 50...Ke5 allowing black to push his D and F pawn freely. 51.Ke2 Ke4 and the game is over, black simply pushes the two juggernaughts. |
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| Oct-13-05 | | Dionyseus: <Gypsy> Your line <47...Kxh4 48.Kxf4 g2 ... and 49.Kf3 Kh3 50.c7 Rf8+ 51.Ke4 Kh2 does not look very good for White 52.Kxd5 g1Q 53.Rxg1 Kxg1 54.Kd6 Kf2 55.Kd7 Ke3 56.c8Q Rxc8 57.Kxc8 Kd4 58.Kb7 Kc4 59.Kc6 Kb3 60.Kc5 Kxa3 61.Kc4 Kb2! ... and Black wins.> contains some errors. The first error is 49.Kf3, this is a huge blunder and immediately throws away the game. Instead white should play Ke5 and the position is drawn. The second error is 51.Ke4, this is an illegal move because of the black pawn on D5! |
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Oct-13-05
| | Gypsy: Ok, here is a draw variation: <42. R8xd5 cxd5 43. Rc1 Rxb2 44. c6 Rb8 45. Kg2 f4 46. Kf3 Kg5 47. h4+ ...> and now 47...Kxh4 48.Kxf4 g2 ... and <49.Ke5> (instead of 49.Kf3?); White thus saves a time to draw the pawn andgame: 49...Kh3 50.c7 Rf8 51.Kxd5 Kh2 52.Kd6 g1Q 53.Rxg1 Kxg1 54.Kd7 Kf2 55.c8Q Rxc8 56.Kxc8 Ke3 57.Kd7 Kd4 58.Kd6 Kc4 59.Ke5(!) Kb3 60.Kd4 Kxa3 61.Kc3 =. |
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Oct-13-05
| | Gypsy: <Dionyseus: ...The first error is 49.Kf3, this is a huge blunder and immediately throws away the game. Instead white should play Ke5 and the position is drawn.> Right. |
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| Oct-13-05 | | THE pawn: Now bring on HYDRA! |
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Oct-13-05
| | Gypsy: <Dionyseus: <Gypsy> Your line <42.R1xd5 cxd5 43.Rg8+ Kf6 44.Rxg3 Rxb2 45.Rc3 Rb3! 46.Rc1 Rxh3 47.Kf2(!) Rh7 48.c6 Rc7 49.Ke3 Ke6 50.Rc5...> has two errors The first error in your line is 49...Ke6, Ke5 would be better. The second error is a big blunder. After 50.Rc5 black simply plays 50...Ke5 allowing black to push his D and F pawn freely. 51.Ke2 Ke4 and the game is over, black simply pushes the two juggernaughts. > Oh, I gave this variation rather as winning for Black (although with some drawing chances). The 49...Ke6 is a typo: think of it as 49...Ke5. Then the variation went 50.Rc5 f4+ 51.Kf3 Kd4 52.Ra5 Rxc6 53.Rxa4 Rc4 54.Ra8 Kc3 ... but the line was becoming a bit too long and fuzzy. |
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Oct-13-05
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Congratulations to Veselin Topalov. Anyone who only needs a draw to become the World Champion, and then proceeds to go on the attack, sacrifice a pawn, followed by the Exchange, is a player who deserves the title. |
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Oct-13-05
| | keypusher: To answer my own (and <gypsy>'s) question from earlier, 37 Kg1 (and 38 Kg1) would be answered by 37...Re5, when white has nothing better than 38 Rd1 Re2 and black has at least a draw. If 38 Kf1?? Bc4+ and Black wins. I still am wondering about 39 Rg1. After 39...f5 40 Rb8 f4 41 Rd8 f3 42 Rxd5 cd 43 Rc1? Rxg2 44 c6 Rh2+ 45 Kg1 f2+ black wins; 43 c6 Rc2 44 c7 f2! 45 Rd1 Rxc6 and black will surely win the ending. But there is probably lots I am missing. |
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Oct-14-05
| | Gypsy: < keypusher: ... 37 Kg1 (and 38 Kg1) would be answered by 37...Re5, when white has nothing better than 38 Rd1 Re2 and black has at least a draw. > The position just does not seem any more difficult than the one after Kh1. It is interesting to see the preparatory intemezzo <34...Re3> allowing the later possibility of 37.Kg1 Re5. |
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Oct-14-05
| | Gypsy: <34.Rxb3> looks like a safe path to draw for White; eg, 34...Bxb3 35.Re3 Bd5 36.g3 hxg3 37.Rxg3 Rxg3 38.Bxg3 =. Of course, White can not convert his extra pawn. |
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| Oct-14-05 | | shirova: A worthy successor to Kasparov #1 throne. Incidentally, it's against Topalov that Kaspy played his best ever game in Linares 1999, and it was Topalov that beat Kasparov in his last game in Linares 2005. |
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| Oct-14-05 | | Stevens: <HammerTime> <kasim is 35th ranked, now he will be among top 8> how did you work that out? |
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| Oct-14-05 | | AlexanderMorphy: All hail the new world champion VESELIN TOPALOV(a true champion!) |
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Oct-14-05
 | | lostemperor: This is the battle between the old and the new champion. I predicted this important game which gave Topalov the title a draw in 46 moves. Viva Topalov! As far as the rest of my predictions for round 13 for the cu8sfan predictioncontest <Adams - Leko 1/2 (26)> became draw in 25 moves <Anand - Morozevich 1-0 (47)> became draw in 27 moves <Polgar - Svidler 1/2 (37)> became draw in 39 moves I am not satisfied about my results in the contest though :( |
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Oct-14-05
| | keypusher: <Gypsy> yes, the only difference is white has the option of playing Rg1 after 37 Kh1. But that doesn't seem to be a very valuable option . . . . <It is interesting to see the preparatory intemezzo <34...Re3> allowing the later possibility of 37.Kg1 Re5.> Right!! Forgot all about that move after the exchange sac. |
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