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Peter Svidler vs Veselin Topalov
"Peter's Out" (game of the day Nov-21-2005)
FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005), San Luis ARG, rd 5, Oct-02
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. English Attack Anti-English (B90)  ·  0-1



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Peter Svidler vs Veselin Topalov (2005) Peter's Out
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Nov-21-05  notsodeepthought: <tpstar> Talk about a wardrobe malfunction. Hopefully the game wasn't televised.
Nov-21-05  schizoidman: <patzer2>, It is common to allow pictures at the beginning of the round. If you will notice, only one move had been played on the board at the time of the photo.
Nov-21-05  patzer2: <schizoidman> Thanks for the tip. I haven't attended any GM tournaments in person, and the protocol you describe makes sense.
Nov-21-05  alexandrovm: in move 15, what if white takes with the pawn, not with the queen. Is it the same thing?
Nov-21-05  bishopawn: <gchristopher>, That move, 27.Bc4 looks like a possibility. I am wondering if Topalov came back with 27...d5, questioning the bishop, re-opening the file, would it hurt his position.
Nov-22-05  patzer2: <tpstar> Just curious. I'm an FSU Seminole alumnus, and was wondering if you had a source for your famous headline. I've seem one attributed to the Gators but never the Trojans, though FSU did play and defeat Southern Cal in women's soccer this year and in men's football in 1997.
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  tpstar: <patzer2> Oops, you must be right. I probably blocked out the mental image involving snapping 'Gators. ;>D
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  WannaBe: I believe <tpstar>'s memory might be a little off, check out this web-site, go to the bottom "In the News" 4th headline from Tallahassee Bugle.

But I do have to admit, (Being a Bruin) that if 'SC had played FSU with Peters Out, that would be even funnier. =)

Nov-22-05  headmutant7: <gchristopher> 27.Bc4 looks like a winner to me. Every way I played it out I think White winds up a whole piece up. I thought it was the right move before I read anyone's notes so I'm glad someone else saw it. It not only smothers the Black rook it puts pressure on the e-pawn. Does anyone see a refutation?
Nov-24-05  Hesam7: After 27. Bc4 R3xc4 28. bxc4 Rxc4 Fruit gives:

29. Bf2 Nc6 30. Nc2 b5 31. h4 gxh4 32. Rh1 Kf7 33. Bxh4 Kg6 34. Bf2 b4 35. Ne3 Rc5 36. Rh4 a5 37. Ng4 Rd5 38. Kc2 h5 39. Ne3 Rg5 40. Kb3 (eval: -0.05)

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Nov-24-05  King Rules: Hello guys.. I am new here.. It will be of great help if someone can advice me the best way to learn Chess.. also is kibitzing the only way to interact with other people by posting messages? I started playing chess since May 2004 and i am a System Operator at (Europe's biggest chess server). I am from India !!
Nov-24-05  King Rules: I have an Online rating of 1700 since i started learning this game. Tho i collected "My System", i got no time to go thru the second chapter since 1 year.. I play reg. chess on internet and play according to my instincts.. I will be honored if someone can tell me the names of players, whose games i can kibitz here....this database is really wonderful :-)
Nov-24-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Welcome to our community, <King Rules>!

<also is kibitzing the only way to interact with other people by posting messages?>

Yes, but it works quite nicely. This way, everyone can see what has been written about the game already and gets the chance to join in. You can check back to see if replies have been posted to your kibitzes by clicking on "your profile" in the bottom menu.

<I will be honored if someone can tell me the names of players, whose games i can kibitz here>

What do you mean?

May-20-06  spirit: 31...Nh4!...this guy hates bishops like the devil hates holy water
May-20-06  spirit: can someone please FRITZ 18...Nd4
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  pawn to QB4: Anything for a fellow kibitzer. Fritz says 19.Qxc3 5.86 after 1 minute's thought.
May-21-06  spirit: i actually didn't see the uncovering...thanks <pawn to QB4> and of course HERR FRITZ
Jul-10-07  OneArmedScissor: Why not <16. gxf3>?
Dec-13-07  dazone3: <OneArmedScissor: Why not <16. gxf3>?>

I was shocked when Svidler didn't play 16. gxf3. Upon a bit of calculation, I found

16. gxf3 ♗xc3+
17. bxc3 ♕xc3+
18. ♕d2 (18.♔e2 ♘d4+!) ♕xa1+

And with material even (black's 2 minor pieces traded for 2 white pawns and a rook), white's terrible kingside pawn structure and unsafe king position yields a large advantage to black. Svidler's decision to take the knight with his queen and move his king to d1 keeps the game tricky.

Aug-19-09  alexrawlings: Would there be anything wrong with the move 35... Rxg2?
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  tamar: <alexrawlings> from the tournament book

<Also black has no interest in 35...Rxg2 36 Ne3 Rxd3+ 37 Kxd3 Rh2, as neither side can win here: 38 Nd1 Rxh3 39 Ke3 Rh2 (39...Rg3?! 40 Rh1) 40 Nf2 With such a rook, Black cannot hope for anything.>

San Luis 2005 GM Alik Gershon and Igor Nor

Aug-22-09  alexrawlings: Thanks <tamar>.
Jan-09-11  GilesFarnaby: <alexandrovm: in move 15, what if white takes with the pawn, not with the queen. Is it the same thing?>

<OneArmedScissor: Why not <16. gxf3>?>

Yep, is the same thing but with doubled pawns for white and one less square for the king to retire (white queen can´t conveniently parry the threats anyway)

17.gxf3 Bxc3+ 18.bxc3 Qxc3+...

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...if Ke2: ...Nd4+, if Qd2: ...Qxa1.

Evaluation, in the Qd2 line is a little plus for black. Both gxf3 and Qxf3 are draws with best play after all.

<spirit: can someone please FRITZ 18...Nd4>

<pawn to QB4: Anything for a fellow kibitzer. Fritz says 19.Qxc3 5.86 after 1 minute's thought.>

Maybe I´m missing something but move 18 with black to play is this:

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And, if so, Qxc3 is illegal, instead Firebird suggests (quickly) Qxb7

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And black is toasted.

Jan-09-11  GilesFarnaby: <LIFE Master AJ: <patzer2> <"(Topalov played this move straight off; no doubt, it was his home preparation)"> - GM Sergey Shipov

Thanks - your post (+ link) answered my question.

So it seems likely that Topalov anticipated this entire line ... this shows the depth that you must be able to prepare to to be a modern GM.>

I´m reluctant to confirm that... in fact I have suggested that ...Nf3+ was already played at prof. level in this page:

I Cheparinov vs J C Ibarra Jerez, 2001

...but I really don´t know for sure, if I ever see Topa again I will ask him, or please some kibitzer ask him if sees him before I do!

Feb-23-13  master of defence: To avoid this little trap, why not 15.Qd2?
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