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Vasyl Ivanchuk vs Sergey Volkov
European Club Cup (2005), Saint Vincent ITA, rd 6, Sep-23
French Defense: Classical. Burn Variation Morozevich Line (C11)  ·  1-0

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Nov-07-05  aragorn69: Spending 30 odd hours on this game (with the help of Fritz!) and not seeing (look in the box!) 30.Qb5 Kf7? 31.Rxc6! is a waste of time. <AJ> unfortunately never ceases to create ways to get ridiculed. He should (honestly!) seek treatment for his masochistic impulses.
Nov-07-05
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  LIFE Master AJ: I also don't consider it that big a deal. As I said previously, to wait a move or two, and then play the same moves - but with a different move order - is called a transposition.

IF - and when - a titled player says that Kg2 was incorrect, then I would be willing to look at it again, right now I consider it a completely useless and moot point.

How about aksing Ray Keene to look at it? I value his opinion.

Nov-07-05  KingG: <LMAJ> Why don't you ask one of your many chess engines to look at it? I can't believe you think there is a transposition. Give some lines to show the transposition. Or even better, show how the line i gave doesn't lead to a winning position.
Nov-07-05  aragorn69: Sigh, sigh. There is no question of transposition in <KingG>'s analysis (as he expressly stated himself). The question is not about the respective merits of 30.Kg2 / 30.Qb5, but your suggestion of 30.-Kf7 (after 30.Qb5) which, until you prove otherwise, is a bad blunder. Try reasoning about facts, please.
Nov-08-05  aragorn69: I, <use the same phrasing> as hayton3 ?? I only wish !!
Nov-09-05  aw1988: Anyway, getting back to the game, I will never have the guts to sacrifice the knight as is done here.
Dec-15-05  notyetagm: What a shame that someone (Ivanchuk) can play chess like this and will not be in the next World Championship cycle.
Dec-18-05
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  LIFE Master AJ: Just a final note ... I have gotten a good half-dozen e-mails ... and they all thought my analysis was superb.
Dec-18-05  you vs yourself: <chancho> I must admit that it was a very good game. But the analysis is priceless! <Ng5+!! What???> AJ's strength is probably(maybe?) his uncontrollable emotion!
Dec-18-05  TopaLove: I´d like to ask two questions about this game. First, why did White play 6.♗xf6 ? Second, why not 12 ... exd5 ?
Dec-19-05  notyetagm: <TopaLove> White plays 6 ♗xf6 because in the resulting position his e4-knight is the best minor piece on the board.
Dec-19-05  StraightLarsen: Interesting game....
Dec-25-05
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  LIFE Master AJ: This game is almost as complicated as Judit Polgar's game against Kasimdzhanov from the World Championship tournament in San Luis, ARG; 2005. (Judit Polgar vs Kasimdzhanov, 2005)
Dec-28-05  Whitehat1963: Ivanchuk is clearly one of the most entertaining players in the last 50 years!
Dec-28-05  syracrophy: 41...Nxf7 42.Rxf8+ Kg7 43.Rg8++ and 41...Qxf7 42.Nxf7 Kxf7 43.Rxf8+ and black's completely lost!
Feb-21-06  notyetagm: Anyone think this game will win the Best Game Prize for Chess Informant 94 when it is announced in April?
Jun-26-06  whatthefat: Wow, <KingG>'s utter obliteration of <LMAJ> was almost as entertaining as this incredible game! And without a doubt, sound.
Jun-26-06  KingG: I had almost completely forgotten about all this. The cg.com administrators seem to have deleted a few of the posts, so parts of my 'conversation' with <LMAJ> look a bit odd. The funny thing is, before he started attacking me on this page, i had nothing against him. But after this, i understood why 90% of users here are on his ignore list. All it takes is a polite disagreement for him to start verbally attacking you like a maniac.

Around the same time, we were analysing this game, Judit Polgar vs Kasimdzhanov, 2005, but that turned sour as well.

I hope AJ has sought out professional help since then, but i doubt it somehow.

Jun-26-06  The Zorro: That knight sacrifice was something!!

How to turn a boring french into a entertaining game.

May-30-08  whiteshark: With the experience of this game I think that <11...c5> was premature. Although the intention of attacking white's d4-pawn is strategically right, with hindsight, it only opened the position for white's better developed pieces.

So maybe <11...Qd6 12.Re1 b4> is a viable alternative.

May-30-08  whiteshark: Undiscovered territory is <26.Ng5>!


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Actually it's <26.Ng5!! >, a sunday puzzle. Anticipate the worst! :D

Jan-13-09  WhiteRook48: this is an awesome game by Ivanchuk.
Jan-26-09  WhiteRook48: and great sacrifices
Feb-01-09  WhiteRook48: the last move was awesome and obvious
May-07-11
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  OhioChessFan: I think 30. Qb5 might be something like a Thursday/Friday level move, hardly hard to find. White playing Rb5 might be another improvement any number of times in the 30's. The Black Queen is a sitting duck.
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