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J Davidson vs A J Goldsby
91st US Open (1990), Jacksonville, FL USA, Aug-??
Sicilian Defense: Dragon Variation. Yugoslav Attack (B77)  ·  0-1



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Sep-26-11  JoergWalter: <LMAJ> you as the <wizard of the ignore button> have the solution in hand. Don't just claim to ignore just ignore. Mission accomplished.
Sep-26-11  Everyone: Don't worry. A lot of people are in the same position of where u are right now. Just make friends. I know that it is actually a lot harder that it sounds, but just try.
Sep-26-11  JoergWalter: <Just make friends.> everyone says so.
Sep-26-11  I play the Fred: When I said this -

9-24-11 <I play the Fred>: In the case of <AJ's> games, many <are> suggesting improvements in hopes of yanking AJs chain. AJ has the means to take <that power away from them>, but he feeds it.

- This is what I'm getting at:

9-24-11 <shach matov>: anybody and everybody should have every right to brag about their games without being cheaply attacked by idiots like...<I play the fred>.

If AJ sees a comment like this - a clear signal to start up a flame war - aimed at him, he could easily disarm the situation by refusing to address it, as I have done with <shach>'s comment. In the wake of flame wars I was involved in, I decided that while I wasn't going to keep quiet when I felt I should speak up, I would resist jumping into the fray with insults and cheap shots.

So yeah. AJ could just be the bigger man and not acknowledge the offending comments, but he fires back...and things escalate.

And to <shach> - good luck with everything, but I don't care what names you call me. When we cross paths again, I will discuss the facts with you. If you care to do anything else, that's your business. It's no longer mine.

Sep-26-11  Robed.Bishop: The high road is getting crowded!
Sep-26-11  LIFE Master AJ: It would be best if everyone just stuck to chess ...
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  FSR: <Robed.Bishop> Thanks. I don't recall ever hearing that song before. btw, I doubt that A.J. would approve of any song that hints at EVILution.
Sep-27-11  Robed.Bishop: Ah, not a fan of The Kinks.
Nov-28-11  King Death: <AJ> calls this his Immortal Game? This is just a stock Dragon sac on c3 that an average player would play in a flash, rewarded when White plays a horrible defensive idea with 17.Kd2 instead of running the other way.
Nov-29-11  JoergWalter: <King Death: <AJ> calls this his Immortal Game?>

immortal as ineradicable weed.

Feb-14-12  LIFE Master AJ: To answer the question ... this game was the un-official brilliancy prize winner ... the prize was determined by a book-seller, I think he had input from several different sources.

I did not play maybe my best chess ever at this event, but this game was my one bright spot.

Feb-23-12  hedgeh0g: I don't think anyone is disputing that this is your finest work to date.
Feb-24-12  Nemesistic: 14...b5?? is terrible imho, it kind of gives white a free move, i just don't see nothing productive about this move whatsoever...

Why not 14...Qa5, i would think this a lot better, but hey... I'm no Life Master!

Feb-24-12  JoergWalter: <Nemesistic> there is a discussion starting on page 9, when <LMAJ> informed the world about this:

<LIFE Master AJ: I DON'T remember which one, but a GM told me that 14...b5; (then) was a TN ... he called it, "A fantastic idea.">

All happy balony of course, so typical of our friend <LMAJ>.

Feb-24-12  Nemesistic: <JW> Click on his webpage link above annotating this game, and see if you can spot the blatant BS in his introduction that evn he couldn't explain away

Somethings not normal here, i don't believe this man is for real!

Feb-25-12  JoergWalter: <Nemesistic> I gave it up to build a syntactical correct and meaningful sentence which contains <LMAJ> and <normal>. This guy is his own worst nightmare. (a very real one).

He finishes his introduction to this game with <Here is the game, annotated as well as I know how.> and then at the end of the webpage he writes:
<This is one of the finest games I ever played. I hope you enjoyed my annotations of it. This is a version of this game that I developed specifically for this web site. In the interest of speed there is no in-depth opening survey, and I tried to cut off the variations and not make them too detailed. Contact me - if you would like me to mail you a copy of this game. (I will charge a very modest fee, mainly to cover my costs of paper, printing, and postage fees.)>

However, inbetween we are amply compensated by gems of annotation like

<14...b5!!; (TN)
A true theoretical novelty.>

<I now play one of the finest and best moves of my whole chess career. 17...Neg4!!!; (Maybe - '!!!!')
The reason for this astounding shot is not even immediately clear. I remember that a very large crowd had gathered around this game at about this point. When I played this move, a noisy 'hub-bub' erupted ... so much so that a TD ran over to try and quiet things down a bit>

< After the game, an elderly fellow who had been watching this game said,"Your play in this game reminds me of the young Tal." While I feel I did not honestly deserve this compliment, I enjoyed it immensely nonetheless>

Priceless insights into a unicell brain.

Feb-25-12  Ziggurat: It <is> a nice attacking game, though.
Feb-27-12  hedgeh0g: Shhhh...

...he might hear you ;)

Feb-27-12  brankat: In a week, maybe :-)
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  Domdaniel: Unlike so many other things - which we can call opinions - novelties are a matter of fact. A move in the opening has either been played before, or it hasn't.

Of course, mistakes can be made. A move may have been played somewhere by an unknown player and not found its way into the databases. Back in the 1960s, before personal computers, GMs used to guard their access to tournament bulletins and other sources of data. But this game dates from 1990, well into the computer age, and it should be possible to verify any novelties.

I see that my Chessbase book adds a '?' to Black 6th move (6...Nc6?) and White's 10th (10.Bb3?), though both have been played hundreds of times. Such annotations, however, are not facts: just the opinion of the book's compiler.

Note that the Dragon is probably the most TN-sensitive of all openings: whole lines have gone in and out of fashion when new moves were found for one side or another. Anyone using 'old' theory against a well-informed opponent is liable to find themself in a lost position.

Just using CG's opening explorer as a rough guide, one can see that up to 11...Ne5 is a very well-trodden path, with over 500 games (eg Lombardy-Byrne, 1958). But with 12.Bh6 (?) the numbers drop sharply - the main line is (and was) 12.h4, with 12.Kb1 in a distant 2nd place. Chessbase book gives 12.Bh6 a '?'. White, with this over-eager move, drifts away from any kind of Dragon mainline.

In a sense, this makes the follow-up less significant: 12.Bh6 is busted, and had been busted before 1990. But perhaps Black found a new or more forcible way to demonstrate the bust? Let's see.

12.Bh6 Bxh6 13.Qxh6 Rxc3

The thematic Exchange sac, played by Velimirovic and Korchnoi in the 1960-70s, is standard.

14.bxc3 b5!?

The crux. Chessbase suggests only 14...a5 and 14...Qa5 for Black. In the CG database, this is one of two games with 14...b5. The other one, Slavotinek-Travers, was played in the Australian Women's Championship in 1981 (a game won by White, incidentally).

As this was nine years earlier, 14...b5 was not a novelty here. The TN laurels go to Ms Catherine Travers. The Black player here, however, may have been at least the first *male* player to uncork the move. Or first to win with it? Let's dig deeper. has only one example of 14...b5, in its 'historic' (pre-1991) section: it's Davidson-Goldsby.

365chess has 48 games reaching the key position, but none at all with 14...b5 --- only 14...a5, 14...Qa5, and 14...Qc7. Chessbase also turns up a blank.

And that's as far as I go. There are other databases I could check, but I think we've learned enough (and the relevant info was here at CG all along). I'm no Dragon expert - I've tried studying it, but was defeated by the amount of work involved - but it's safe to state some conclusions:

14...b5 was not a theoretical novelty, having been played earlier in Australia. But it seems unlikely that the players here were aware of that precedent.

More significantly, 14...b5 didn't subsequently catch on. On the rare occasions when this line (with 12.Bh6?) was later played, the Black players used other moves to follow up the Exchange sac (14...a5, 14...Qa5, etc).

It's hard for a non-expert to state definitively which 14th move is best for Black. And, in any case, that would just be an opinion: we're trying to restrict ourselves to facts.

The first novelty in this game was whenever it stopped following the Aussie women: 15...Qa5 rather than 15...Nc4. But of course 15...Qa5 transposes into games going 14...Qa5 15.h4 b5!? ... which would require a whole nother search. I'm passing on the torch.

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  Domdaniel: The late great GM Eduard Gufeld would have liked 14...b5. His favorite openings were the Dragon and King's Indian - he wrote books on both - and in both cases liked to play ...b5 to open lines.

I suspect the main reason for its rarity is simply that no-one plays 12.Bh6 anymore.

This game finishes nicely. The knight sac 17...Neg4 is sound, and winning.

Feb-28-12  brankat: "Were it not for the monotony which has arisen from many players clinging so persistently to certain book variations of dull and safe openings, the necessity for any variations would be less urgent."

-– Henry Bird :-)

Mar-13-12  frogbert: <14...b5 was not a theoretical novelty, having been played earlier in Australia. But it seems unlikely that the players here were aware of that precedent.>

actually i think that playing a move that has been played before (at an "irrelevant level") can theoretically be considered a tn, if played in a theoretically significant position. here, since the 12. Bh6?! line is generally considered insufficient for white to play for a win, due to *numerous* black continuations, not even a genuinely new move would be considered a tn - since the position isn't important to begin with.

of course, another requirement of a tn is that it's actually a good move, and that doesn't seem to be the case of 14... b5?! - it's actually a rather poor one if i'm to believe the minor analysis i did with houdini here. the engine recommends the game continuation 15. h4 Qa4 but then 16. Qe3?! is highly insufficient. correct is continuing the attack with 16. h5! which leads to this position:

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here there are two major continutions: a) 16... gxh5 and b) 16... Nc4 - both end up giving white an advantage of roughly +1 accourding to houdini. the principal lines:

a) 16... gxh5!? 17. Kb1! Nc4 18. Bxc4 bxc4 (some use of 14... b5, opening the b-file) 19. Ne2 , black has nothing:

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slightly depending on black's continuation, white aims to play Ka1 and Rb1 and the white king is perfectly safe.

b) 16... Nc4 17. Bxc4 bxc4 18. Kd2! Nxh5 19. g4 Nf6 20. Rb1

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in both major lines black's attack has been permanently stopped, while white has all the assets. in line b) black can try alternatives to 18... Nxh5, but there's nothing that helps his position.

avoiding a) 17... Nc4 or b) 16... Nc4 doesn't yield anything and makes 14... b5?! rather pointless. the conclusion seems to be that 14... b5?! is clearly insufficient and offers white all the winning chances originally blown by playing 12. Bh6?!

Mar-13-12  frogbert: here's a nice illustrative line of the kind of problems black have. (after white's improvement 16. h5!)

16... Qa3+ 17. Kd2 g5!? (trying to delay the opening of files) 18. g4! a5 (continuing the black attack) 19. Qxg5+ Kh8 20. Qf4! a4 (certainly not the only option, but very natural):

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however, white is faster and can even ignore the black threats to white material! 21. g5! axb3 22. gxf6 Nc4+ 23. Ke2 bxc2

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does white need to yield? not an inch!

24. fxe7! (with multiple threats of mate) cxd1:Q+ 25. Kxd1! (minimizing black's number of checks and threats)

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white's threats are overwhelming and black's best move is "resigns".

Mar-15-12  brankat: A very fine analysis <frogbert>!

Just noticed that there seems to be about 5 pages of the previous "analysis" missing :-)

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