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Nov-14-15
 | | Penguincw: Really, I am at a loss for words on what happened in Paris. Of course, let's not forget about what happened in Japan, Lebanon and Mexico as well. Yesterday was Friday the 13th, a day considered to be "unlucky". Pray for Earth. Back to this puzzle, 2 lines stood out for me:
- 23...Nf3, but 24.g3 stops it, but black can keep trying with 24...h4. - 23...Rxg2 24.Kxg2 Qg6+ 25.Kh1. However, I did not see the followup of 25...Rxf2. Black down a pawn, it's nice to see all of their pieces attacking while white has their pieces on the queenside, doing what exactly? |
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| Nov-14-15 | | yadasampati: Beautiful combination! If white plays 26. Bf1 (instead of Rg1) black can finish with 26. ... Rxh2+! (second rook offer) 27. Kxh2 Nf3+ 28. Kh1 Qg1# (or 28. Kh3 Qg4#) |
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Nov-14-15
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Oh well, there goes that winning streak. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | thegoldenband: I went for 23...Rxg2 24. Kxg2 Nf3, which looks like it may win as well. |
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Nov-14-15
 | | al wazir: I got the first three moves with no trouble. I'm not sure I would have played them over the board, because I didn't have a fourth move in mind. But after white's 26. Rg1, 26...Nf3 cries out to be made. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | ozu: Got this one. This seemed more like a Thursday or Friday. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | galdur: I saw 23..Rxf2 24. Qa3 Qxa3 25. Rxa3 Rgxg2 with an easy win, right away and left it at that. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | morfishine: At least for me, easier to see with the board flipped viewing from the Black side |
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| Nov-14-15 | | agb2002: Black has a bishop for a knight and a pawn.
White threatens 24.Bxg8 and Rxe4.
The white castle is unprotected. This suggests 23... Rxg2 24.Kxg2 Qg6+ 25.Kh1 (25.Kh3 Qg4#) 25... Rxf2 A) 26.Rg1 Nf3 and mate next (27.Rxg6 Rxh2#).
B) 26.Bf1 Nxf1 and mate in two. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | gofer: White has a huge attack on the a file, smashing into its own pawn on a5!
So really, if black plays this properly, we have a middle game where black has
"Q+2R+N v R+B" - which simply isn't a fair fight!!!
The first move is forcing.
<23 ... Rxg2>
<24 Kxg2 ...>
The second move is devastating...
<24 ... Qf4>
Black threatens...
25 ... Qf3+
26 Kg1 Qxf2+
27 Kh1 Nf3 mating
Black also threatens the direct route...
25 ... Qxf2+
26 Kh3 Rf3# or Kh1 Nf3 mating
White only has a few defensive moves...
25 Qa3 Qxf2+
26 Kh1 Nf3 (Kh3 Rf3+ 27 Qxf3 Qxf3+ 28 Kh4 Qg4#)
27 Qxf3 Qxf3+
28 Kg1 Qg4+
29 Kh1 Rf2 mating
25 Be2 Qxf2+
26 Kh3 Rf3+ (Kh1 Nf3 27 Bxf3 Qxf3+ 28 Kg1 Qg4+ 29 Kh1 Rf2 mating)
27 Qxf3 Bxf3+
28 Kh4 Qg4#
25 Bf1 Qxf2+
26 Kh1 Nf3 (Kh3 Rf3#)
27 Bg2 Nxe1 mating
25 Rf1 Qf3+
26 Kg1 Rf5 mating
<25 Re2 Qf3+>
<26 Kg1 Rf5>
<27 Rxd2 Rg5+>
<28 Kf1 e3!!!>
click for larger viewWhite is defenceless against e2+! which forces either Ke1 Rg1# or Bxe2/Rxe2 Qh1# ~~~
Hmmm, okay but there must be thousands of winning combinations, I just choose one that mates three moves later... ...I still give myself a point. Even if I did make this a little hard, but is a <SATURDAY> after all it is meant to be hard! |
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| Nov-14-15 | | nalinw: What about my solution
23. .... Rxf2 ???
The threat is 24. ... R8xg2 and mate later
If 24. Bxg8 Nf3 seems to mate
24. g3 Rxg3 seems to mate
24. Bf1 Nxf1
25. Rxf1 R8xg2 mates
24. Rg1 Nf3 mates
Can I claim a full point? |
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| Nov-14-15 | | patzer2: I found this Saturday puzzle, with the 23...Rxg2! demolition forcing mate-in-five, much easier than yesterday's Friday puzzle. For a White improvement, instead of <19. Rfe1 Qd6 =>, 19. Rfd1 Qxf7 20. Bxf7 e4 21. Re1 Rd6 22. Re2 Rh7 23. Be6 Rg7 24. c3 Nf3+ 25. Kh1 Nxh2 26. Rxe4 Ng4 27. Bxg4 hxg4 28. Rae1 g3 29. fxg3 Rxg3 30. Re8+ Kc7 31. Kh2 Rg5 32. R1e7+ Rd7 33. b4 Rg4 34. Rxd7+ Kxd7 35. Re5 Rc4 36. Rc5 Re4 37. Rg5  (+1.23 @ 27 depth, Deep Fritz 14) secures the extra pawn and all the winning chances. White's game takes a turn for the worse with <20. Bd3? Rfd8  > (-1.99 @ 23 depth). Instead, 20. b3 = or 20. Qe6 = keep it level. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | galdur: <nalinw> I had the same. It´s not electronically perfect but close enough. An easy win. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | j3st3da8om3: Giving queen for exchange on g7 it will be help white player to defend from mad mate in combination queen,rook,and knight |
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| Nov-14-15 | | dfcx: White is about to play Bxg8, but its king is only protected by pawns. This suggests 23...Rxg2 24. Kxg2 (or Qxh2#) Qg6+ 25.Kh1(Kh3 Qg4#) Rxf2 to guard against Qg2#,
26.Rg1/Bf1 Nf3 and Rxh2# next |
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| Nov-14-15 | | thegoodanarchist: < ozu: Got this one. This seemed more like a Thursday or Friday.> yup. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | jith1207: To repeat the words of someone from 10 years ago:
Possibilities:
1. Today is not Saturday
2. I am getting smarter
3. The law of averages came into play and I was bound to get one sooner or later
4. This was the easiest Saturday puzzle ever |
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| Nov-14-15 | | RandomVisitor: I had 23...Rxg2 24.Kxg2 Nf3, aiming for a double attack on the weak h2 pawn, which seems to work, but is not best. |
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Nov-14-15
 | | varishnakov: 23...Rxg2 24.Kxg2 Q-g6+ 25.K-h1 Rxf2 26.R-g1 N-f3! and mate cannot be prevented |
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| Nov-14-15 | | kevin86: Black spins an Arabian mate around a queen sacrifice! |
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Nov-14-15
| | varishnakov: <If white plays 26. Bf1 (instead of Rg1) black can finish with 26. ... Rxh2+! (second rook offer) 27. Kxh2 Nf3+ 28. Kh1 Qg1# (or 28. Kh3 Qg4#)> or simply 26...Nxf1 |
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| Nov-14-15 | | houtenton: Long ago, during the internal competition of our chessclub in The Hague a honored and respected member
got a heart attack, felt down on the floor and died with a sort of load scream. Accidentally I was sitting next
to him. I stood up, expecting big consternation, and asked if anybody could do something, at least call for a doctor (I was still very young by then). Only his opponent reacted and
went away to call a doctor (no mobile
phones). And the whole club continued playing chess, not paying attention to it at all. Yes I looked at the problem of today also, but there was not much gladness, as Paris is so close to The Hague. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | BxChess: gofer: I also followed the line you give 24...Qf4 25. Re2 Qf3+ but I couldn't see the win after 28. Kf1. Your 28...e3!!! is very nice.
Instead I found the alternate line:
23...Rxg2
24 Kxg2 Qf4
25 Re2 Nf3
26 Re3 Qxh2+
27 Kf1 Nd2+
28 Ke1 Rxf2
29 Re2 Nf3+
30 Kd1 Qg1+
31 Re1 Qxe1#
Its longer than yours or the game line. |
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| Nov-14-15 | | bharat123: How about 23..Rxg2 24.Kxg2 Rxf2 25.Kxf2 Qxh2# |
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| Nov-14-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: Black has a knight for a pawn and bishop, but with the force of all major pieces directed towards the almost undefended king and the white queen completely offside, white can only hope for a serious mishandling of the black attack. Black should readily find the forcing continuation 23... Rxg2! threatening mate; if now
A.24.Kxg2 Qg6+ 24.Kh1 (Kh3 Qg4#) Rxf2 25.Rg1 Nf3! 26.Rxg6 (Re2 Qxg1#) Rxh2# A.1 25.Bf1 Nxf1 26.Rxf1 (or any other) Qg2#
A.2 25.other Qg2#
B.24.f4 (otherwise 24... Qxh2#) gxf3 e.p. 25.Re8+ Rxe8 26. any Qh2# |
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