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John William Schulten vs Paul Morphy
Morphy vs. Schulten (1857), New York, NY USA
King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit. Staunton Line (C31)  ·  1-0



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Feb-18-08  Knight13: LOL White missed f6 this guy SUCKS LOL even 1000 rateds would see this! What's his name, Morphy? I bet I could take this guy in less than 30 moves.

(Hey put the hammer down I was just kidding I swear please... No!! Don't!! I wanna live!!)

Dec-20-08  WhiteRook48: What the!? A mess-up from a player this good? I wonder if Morphy lost this game on purpose just not to get the people suspicious about winning Anderssen, Harrwitz, and all those other guys.
Dec-20-08  WhiteRook48: Oh, and I saw f6, and i'm 1000 rated.
Dec-23-08  WhiteRook48: One can only imagine what happened after this game... "Morphy lost! Morphy lost! Oh what a blunder! He blindly grabbed an en prise bishop like a beginner not knowing any g7 weakness!" is what one of the players would say nearby. Schulten, meanwhile, is staring at his King while Morphy hears taunts.
Dec-23-08  morphchess1857: This is the one and only game won by Schulton vs. Morphy and I believe its a fake!
Dec-23-08  SatelliteDan: Did anything about Morphy doing drugs? Did he know Edger Allen Poe?
Jan-13-09  WhiteRook48: do you have any proof that this game is a fake??
Feb-01-09  WhiteRook48: how did Morphy miss that?
Feb-28-09  WhiteRook48: 13...g6 is odd
Apr-02-09  WhiteRook48: it's NOT a mate in 1. It's a mate in 3. 18...Qb5+ 19 Kc1 Qb1+ 20 Kxb1 cxd5 21 Qg7#
May-06-09  Marmot PFL: Probably a blindfold game.
May-06-09  Calli: Keypusher is correct. Morphy agreed to play Schulten at the end of Nov 1857. Schulten was not in New York during the chess congress (Oct-early Nov). Morphy agreed to even games probably out of respect for Schulten having known and played all the greats since the thirties. Morphy won 23 of the 24 and Lawson speculates that he lost this one due to the "monotony induced by so many wins".
Aug-18-09  chessenthus: After f5,Morphy became greedy,missing f6.Black should have played 17...Qd8!!
Mar-18-11  Uhohspaghettio: "Hay guise, look at me. I'm going to take one game out of hundreds that Morphy played, perhaps a blind simul, and say oh gawwddd how could he have missed that?!?!?!?!

Then I'm going to check what Morphy said about the rest of the game with Houdini on depth 25, and if with perfect play Black was really lost anyway I'll contradict Morphy and feel so smug about my chess abilities even though I have no actual clue of the position myself apart from going by what Houdini/Rybka said.

Meanwhile I forget about all my own ridiculous blunders when I play casual games I don't care about and get bored."

May-02-11  IRONCASTLEVINAY: I am unrated and I can see f6 coming.
Was it blindfold??
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  Sastre: Yes, this was a blindfold game.
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  Penguincw: Well, it was blindfold. If it was classical, then that would be a different story.
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  erniecohen: This was not a 1-move blunder; Black was already lost for several moves, probably since 14...♗g4.
Apr-17-12  Llawdogg: A blindfold game? Source?
Nov-26-13  sfm: <WhiteRook48: it's NOT a mate in 1. It's a mate in 3. 18...Qb5+ 19 Kc1 Qb1+ 20 Kxb1 cxd5 21 Qg7#>

Funny that you should say that. I was just about to write that in this position Black should not give up, but try 18.-,Qb5+ and say "Check!" with a loud authoritative voice. Maybe White would move his king to the corner, but rather than 19.-,Qb1+ black would play 19.-,Qf8! :-)

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  Honza Cervenka: Morphy's problem in this game was that he missed or underestimated 17.f5!. Of course, move 17...bxc4 was equal to resignation but a bit better 17...Nd7 was still insufficient, for example 18. Bd3 b4 19. fxg6 fxg6 20. Bxg6 Re7 21. Rhg1 bxc3+ 22. Ka1 Kh8 23. Qh4 Qa3 24. Rb1 cxd5 (or 24...Qd6 25.dxc6 ) 25. Bxh7 Rxh7 26. Qd4+ with mate.
Apr-06-16  Atking: <sneaky pete: Maybe not, Morphy claimed in the post-mortem 17... Nd7 is good for black.> You surely mean 13...Nd7 Black advantage seems then obvious. <Black could have won earlier with 9... Qh4+ 10.g3 Nxg3 11.hxN Qxg3+ 12.Kf1 Qxf4+ and QxBc4> clever but I can understand that Paul Morphy want to keep initiative under control. One can be afraid of moves like 13.Kg2 QxB 14.Qe1+ with Nf3 and Rd1 or/and Rh4. It might be not enough for 2 pawns but such position is quite risky.
May-17-17  sneaky pete: <This game is type: BLINDFOLD>


Morphy suffered from chess blindness, but that doesn't make this a blindfold game. Apparently someone fooled into thinking that, but Maroczy and Sergeant give it as a level game, just like the other games between Morphy and Schulten.

Sep-06-17  RookFile: 17. f5 was definitely the best move of the game. Black is already lost.
Sep-19-20  MacCathey: This page the game is labeled with both players as white and black. Presumably it is Morphy as black, since the index gives it as such.
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