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John Brand vs Jacques-Francois Mouret
Casual (1820), Match?, rd 3
Scotch Game: Scotch Gambit (C44)  ·  0-1



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Jul-22-05  DanRoss53: 29... ♘g4+ 30. ♔f3 ♘xh2+ 31. ♔f2 ♖f1# -- I'm pretty sure the score is wrong.
Jul-31-05  sneaky pete: <DanRoss53> I agree. The Oxford Encyclopedia also gives 1-0, but this must be a clerical error. Old magazines were in the habit of ending the score of a game at this point with "Black announced # in 3 moves".

In 2 other games from 1820 against Brand (note the <round 3> designation of this game) Jacques Francois Moret aka The Turk scored a win and a draw giving pawn and move odds.

Nov-25-05  Steppenwolf:, could you correct the score,please? Sneaky Pete has it right, it is obviously a win for black. Mouret was a very strong french "Turk".
Nov-08-07  uniqueid: Yes the game score is obviously wrong. Good for a Wed/Thur puzzle after 27.Ne6
Jan-17-09  WhiteRook48: Mouret resigned in a won position!
Jun-16-11  squaresquat: I'll wager Mourot was like one of Napoleon's
general officers. He's not going to allow himself to be mated on the back rank; after surviving the retreat from Moscow and the battle of Waterloo, he knew when to give it up.
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  Domdaniel: Can this really be the only surviving game score of Mouret's?
Dec-27-13  thomastonk: Others already claimed some years before that the game was won by Black. Here is a source: Walker's „Chess Studies“ game 429, p 79. He wrote „Won by Mouret of Mr Brand“ and Black "forces m(ate)". Correction slip submitted.
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  wwall: After 27...Qxe6?! (stronger was 27...Re8), instead of 28.Bxe6??, White can play 28.Bd4, threatening mate. Now Black has a perpetual check after 28...Ng3+ 29.Kg1 (29.hxg3?? Qe2+ leads to mate) 29...Ne2+ 30.Kf1 Ng3+, etc.

In the game, instead of 28...Rxd1+, Black has a mate in two after 28...Ng3+ (29.hxg3 or 29.Kg1, then 29...Rxd1 mate, or 29.Ke1 Re2 mate).

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  Marcelo Bruno: Does someone have the whole game he won with White against Cochrane? It was played in London 1823.

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