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Vladimir Savon vs Victor Brond
Mar del Plata (1971), Mar del Plata ARG, rd 12, Apr-06
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation (E86)  ·  1-0



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Dec-24-05  Averageguy: Not knowing that white was already down a pawn, I got everything to 24.Bxc5 and didn't bother to look any furthur.
Dec-24-05  Tariqov: i agree it is pretty easy for a saturday(i missed this weeks Wednesday,thursday and friday , obviously i saw the solution for the days but didn't saw everything for those days), but since it was a saturday i kept on looking for an attack or something for around 15 minutes and was about to give up when i saw the simple 22Nxf7:)

<Timlo> you suggested that after 26...Qc7 27Bd6!? why not just the the strong 27fxe5+,e.gQxe5 28Rf1+Nf4 29Rxf4+Bf5 30Be4 gets more material and 27...Kg7 28Bd6.Your 27Bd6 is more like a fun move(just to tease the opponent in a way).

Dec-24-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Saw 22.Nxf7, but missed the rest by far. :(
Dec-24-05  DexterGordon: <jmi>, <And what if 26... Nxf4 27. Rf1 Be6.... (which Black intends to trade)>

Then doesn't 28.Rxf4+ win a piece, since the e5 pawn is pinned? I think Black will have a hard time saving the f4 knight.

Dec-24-05  agentniner: Black will lose too much material. He can't defend white's attacks.
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  Gypsy: <jmi: ... <26...Nxf4 27.Rf1 and either 28.g3 or 27...Kg7 28.Qxd5+ 29.Qxb8.> And what if 26... Nxf4 27. Rf1 Be6.... (which Black intends to trade) > 26...Nxf4 27.Rf1 Be6 28.g3 Bxc3 29.Qxc4 and 30.gxf4 wins a piece.
Dec-24-05  aginis: some alternatives for black

A.22...Nxe4 23.Nh6+

B.22...Nxb3 23.Nh6+ Kg7 24.Bxb3 -> 25.Ng4

C.22...Na4 23.Qxe5 Qxe5 24.Nxe5

Dec-24-05  aginis: <Gypsy & jmi> why bother with 27.Rf1??

26...Nxf4 27.g3 (if the ♘ moves then 28.Rf1+ Kg7 29.Qxe5+ )

Dec-24-05  aginis: <tarqov> i posted a response to your suggestion on yesterdays puzzle
Dec-24-05  DoctorChess: After 5 minutes of seeing variations I got it. 22. Nxf7! was the winner.
Dec-24-05  yoshi927: I can see why once I see the answer, but I couldn't get the puzzle.
Dec-24-05  dakgootje: missed it...
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  kevin86: These weekend puzzles make me feel like a high jumper with lead shoes.

I saw the knight sac but not beyond that-eveb knowing that this week was pin week.

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  Gypsy: <aginis: <Gypsy & jmi> why bother with 27.Rf1??> Why not, it works just fine.
Dec-24-05  TimLo: Tariqov, if 26...Qc7 27. Bd6 either wins a Q or R, or retains all of the threats you mentioned above for 27. fxe5+ including additional mate threats. That is why it is better.
Dec-24-05  Tariqov: <Timlo> your saying which is better??if 26...Qc7 27.Bd6 why not Qxd6 which white only wins a piece but my 27fxe5 wins a whole rook if i'm correct,e.g your 27Bd6Qxd6 28fxe5Qxe5 29Rf1+Nf4 30Rxf4+Bf5 31exf5 only gets a piece:)
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  al wazir: What if black plays 23...Re8 ? What does white have, aside from a pawn and a pin? If 24. Qb3 then 24...Bxc5. If 24. f4 then 24...exf4 is safe.
Dec-24-05  TopaLove: I think this one was relatively easy cause chessgames wanted to let us happy cause it´s christmas!
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  Richard Taylor: I thought thaht after 22. Nxf7 Rxd1+ 23. Rxd1 White didnthave anything darmati so I stopped looking at it. In hindsightof course it wins a pawn andbreaks down the King side -isepn some teimsloiing at it. But I also was looking at -

22. Nxc5 - I wanted to play 22. Qxe5 but that just doesn't work)

so 22. Nxc5 if Nxc5 23. Qxe5 Bxd6 24. Rxd6 now if Qxd6 25. Rxd6 and 26. Bf4 Rd8 27. Rxb8

Or 26. BxN and White ahs strong postion

buut I was after this:

If 22. ... Nxc5 23. Nxe6 Bxe6 24. Bxe6 fxe6 25. Qb3 -if now Qe7 26. Bg5 if ... Qf7 Black sems ok - I thought there was a pin -but what attracted me to this idea overall was the line

22. Nxc5 Nxc5 and now I convinced myself that Bxc5 and Qxe5 ould be played at once -together when Rxd1+ Rzxr and Qxq loses to the brilliancy Rd8+ Kg7 Bf8+ and then mate....

I should have concentrated on the more obvious (thematic) Nxf7....

In other words I didnt solve this one! Confiteo! -I find Savon plays some quite difficult and ingenious combinations in this case when I saw it as played it suddenly seemed "obvious" so I "failed" on this one !!

Dec-24-05  Tariqov: <Richard Taylor> your posts doesnt make sense at all, how did you get 23Nxe6 if Black used the knight on e6 to go c5.
Dec-24-05  Tariqov: <aginis> me too
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  Richard Taylor: This is the line I meant -

22. Nxc5 Nxc5 23. Bxc5 Bxd6 24. Rxd6 Rxd6 25. Qxe5 Rxd1+ 26. RxR QxQ 27. Rd8+ Kg7 28. Bf8+ Kg8 29. Bh6#

butin that line I just realised that I missed 28...Kf6

If 28..Kf6 29. Rd6+ Qxd6 30. Bxd6 Ra8 White is better. I alsosaw 28. Bd4 winning the Queen back - because I saw these tactical possiblities I went off and away from the - much better - 22. Nxf7!

Dec-25-05  jmi: Thanks everyone for their answers.
Dec-25-05  Tariqov: <Richard Taylor> what if 22Nxc5 Bxd6,i think blacks OK.
Jan-05-06  patzer2: White's demolition of pawn structure combination with 22. Nxf7! initiates a pin to obtain a decisive attacking advantage against Black's weakened Kingside.
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