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Ketevan Arakhamia-Grant vs Viktor Korchnoi
Cancan Veterans-Women (1998), Roquebrune FRA, rd 6, Sep-??
Caro-Kann Defense: Forgacs Variation (B15)  ·  0-1



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  WannaBe: Um... Trick puzzle.
Nov-12-06  chessmoron: 37. d5?? Maybe 37. Kf1 Kg7 then 38. d5+...does it make it draw, though?
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  al wazir: Interesting. I found 35. Bxf7+ Kxf7 36. Qd5+ Kf6 -- but I thought white had a win after 37. Qd6+ Kg5. But it doesn't seem to be there now.

How does 37. Re1 force a draw?

Nov-12-06  RandomVisitor: 35. Bxf7+ Kxf7 36. Qd5+ Kf6 37.Re1 and now:

18 0.00 37. ... Rxe1+ 38.Bxe1 Re8 39.Qc6+ Kf7 40.Qd5+ Kf6 41.Qc6+ Kf7 42.Qd5+ Kf6 43.Qc6+ Kf7 44.Qd5+

17 0.32 37. ... a2 38.Qxa2 Rxc3 39.Nd5+ Kg5 40.Qd2+ Kh5 41.Rxe8 Rc4 42.Rd8 Rxd4 43.Nf4+ Qxf4 44.Qxf4

17 0.38 37. ... Re4 38.Qd6+ Kg5 39.Rxe4 fxe4 40.Ne6+ Kf6 41.Qe5+ Kf7 42.Ng5+ Qxg5 43.Qxg5 Rxc3 44.Qa5

17 0.42 37. ... Rxc3 38.Rxe8 Kg5 39.Kg2 a2 40.Re1 h5 41.Qf7 Kh6 42.Ne6 Bh8 43.Qg8

Nov-12-06  dzechiel: I saw the same stuff <al wazir> did. I didn't consider 37 Re1!. <sigh>
Nov-12-06  RandomVisitor: 34.Bxf7+ also works to force the draw.
Nov-12-06  Krebstar: i saw the draw too,good for me
Nov-12-06  Fisheremon: <chessmoron: 37. d5?? Maybe 37. Kf1 Kg7 then 38. d5+...does it make it draw, though?> Yes, 37. Kf1 with an equal game, but you should consider two main variations 37...Red8 and 37...Rc6.
Nov-12-06  percyblakeney: I was certain it would start with Bxf7+ and then Qd5+ but didn't see Re1 and since it is Sunday I expected it to be too complicated anyway and soon gave up. After seeing the solution it didn't seem that impossible (but by then it usually doesn't...).
Nov-12-06  chessmoron: <Fisheremon> 37...Red8 38. Nd5 Rd6 39.'s still pretty much drawn.

37...Rc6 38. d5 Rc5 39. d6 Bxd6 40. Nd5 Rc8 41. Nf6+ Kg7 42. Bd4 looks still drawn to me.

Nov-12-06  greensfield: Considered 35. Bxf7+ straight away and went down the line 35. Bxf7+ Kxf7 36. Qd5+ Kf8 37. Bb4+ with an inevitable mating attack. I thought I had cracked it, but on checking the solution, Black had 36...Kf6 so I missed 37. Re1. Still I didn't play the move in the game 35. Qxg4.
Nov-12-06  vibes43: 35. Bxf7+ Kxf7 was my choice but I didn't see a way to win with that either. I think the key was to realize there was no win for white and I didn't so I can't take credit. But for me it was a good try.
Nov-12-06  ahmadov: Great puzzle. I needed to check the position with Fritz 9 to understand it properly. The computer took half a minute to find the solution.

I am not surprised that White did not find it as it is very computer-like solution (I hope it is proper English).

Nov-12-06  olydream3: Fritz 9 gives the puzzle position a +3!
Nov-12-06  Fisheremon: <RandomVisitor> In your 2nd line <17 0.32 37. ... a2 38.Qxa2 Rxc3 39.Nd5+ Kg5 40.Qd2+ Kh5 41.Rxe8 Rc4 42.Rd8 Rxd4 43.Nf4+ Qxf4 44.Qxf4> White could improve e.g. 42. Nf4+ Kh6 43. Ne2+ f4 44. Kg2 Bf6 45. Re4 g5 46. f3 Qc8 47. gxf4 Rc2 48. Qd3 gxf4 49. Rxf4 Bg5 50. Rg4
Nov-12-06  Karpova: I found it but it's probably hard to find OTB and quite understandable that Arakhamia-Grant failed to do so. It's easier if you know that there's something...
Nov-12-06  Fisheremon: <RandomVisitor> In your 4th line <17 0.42 37. ... Rxc3 38.Rxe8 Kg5 39.Kg2 a2 40.Re1 h5 41.Qf7 Kh6 42.Ne6 Bh8 43.Qg8> the final position is lost for Black.
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  playground player: Shame on you, trying to trick us into making the same mistake Korchnoi made. We can all make our own mistakes! I did manage to avoid QxQ, and go with Bxf7+, Qd5+... but that was as far as I got.
Nov-12-06  Rubenus: What is the puzzle? I don't see a combination. A normal game, that's it and nothing more. Are there no better games for Sunday?
Nov-12-06  NBZ: Found all three moves Bxf7+, Qd5 and Re1 (this was the difficult one and I only found it after realizing that in all the variations, the rook on e8 guarding the e6 square really blunts the attack)

So I would say I solved the puzzle.

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  kevin86: I had no clue on this one. The exchange of queens almost looks reflexive. White is doomed afterword ,despite bishops of opposite colors.
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  Richard Taylor: <> I found Bxf7+ Qd5+ and number of possiblities and so on but I was looking for a win although it occured to me White was in difficulties - I think White may have been able to survive the ending if he played more accurately.

<> should give more information on what is going on in these puzzles or problems. We (I at least as a Premiuim member anyway) pay for this site - not for crap problems like this though. I wasted a lot of time looking for a win by White.

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