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May-28-15
 | | Retireborn: <Penguincw> In this world there's two kinds of people; those who love The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and those who don't. I think this was Hartston's favourite of his own games; he put it forward for one of Ray Keene's Batsford books (Learn from the Grandmasters, I think.) |
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| May-28-15 | | belgradegambit: <In this world there's two kinds of people; those who love The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and those who don't.>
This game was Hartston channeling Tuco:
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. |
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| May-28-15 | | kevin86: It looks like mate will come after a few spite checks. |
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| May-28-15 | | Moszkowski012273: Not kidding at all <thunderbreizh> you need to look again... That line you suggest is pretty bad... |
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May-28-15
 | | Honza Cervenka: <thunderbreizh: Moszkowski - are you kidding ? (suggesting 8. .. Bxf6) Black is down a piece for 1 pawn after 9. Bb3 (without any compensation Re8+ simply 10. Nge2)> 8...Bxf6 9.Bb3 Re8+ 10.Nge2(?) Bxc3+ 11.bxc3 Bg4 looks like compensation with big fat interest for black to me. But 10.Kf1 is fine. Lost right to castle is no big problem here as black is not developed. I don't see full compensation for lost piece here. |
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May-28-15
| | Honza Cervenka: 10.fxg7 was even stronger than the text. |
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| May-28-15 | | thegoodanarchist: What a fun one this is! |
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| May-28-15 | | Moszkowski012273: 10.Kf1,Bxc3 11.bxc3,Qf6 is STILL better than what was played <Honza>. Should draw with correct play. |
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| May-28-15 | | newhampshireboy: Like Dodge City in the 19th century! |
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May-29-15
| | Honza Cervenka: <Moszkowski012273: 10.Kf1,Bxc3 11.bxc3,Qf6 is STILL better than what was played <Honza>. Should draw with correct play.> Well, in your line black gets the second Pawn for lost piece but still white has significant material advantage. For example, 8...Bxf6 9.Bb3 Re8+ 10.Kf1 Bxc3 11.bxc3 Qf6 12.Qf3 Qxc3 13.Rb1 Nd7 14.Qf2 Qb4 15.Bd2 Qd6 16.Qf4 Qc5 17.Nf3 etc. looks like won game for white more than draw. I don't say that to realize this advantage would be quick or easy task for white and that black has no practical chance to hold the game but I would bet my money on white here for sure. |
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| May-29-15 | | Moszkowski012273: My money's on white as well... But no way is this a "significant material advantage" for white after Rb1. If black wanted better chances to DRAW, Bxf6 was the way to go about it. |
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May-29-15
 | | perfidious: One rather suspects, given Westerinen's tendencies towards aggro, that drawing was far from being on his mind in the early middlegame. |
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Jul-31-23
 | | Sally Simpson: 27.Qf4 a non checking move threatening an unstoppable mate is class. I would have gone for 27.Qd1+ simply because it would have been the first move I looked at as it's a check. The mate in that line is aesthetically pleasant.
click for larger viewNo idea what round this was played in but but Bill won this event. |
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Jul-31-23
| | Retireborn: Googling gives a Di Felice hit showing Alicante (9-19 Nov) to be a cat 5 ten-player tournament. Hartston won with +5=4-0, edging out Bellon Lopez (who he also defeated) by half a point. The round numbers are lost in the mists of history, I fear! |
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Jul-31-23
| | perfidious: <Retireborn>, even 365chess does not have this game, but lists five others, including a quick draw from Esbjerg 1977. There are far worse places to pass one's days than the Alicante. |
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Jul-31-23
| | Retireborn: <perf> Megabase doesn't have this tournament at all, presumably because none of the contestants were GMs at the time. I can well believe that Alicante is a more attractive winter venue than Hastings, although Hartston did also play at the Hastings event shortly afterwards. |
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| Mar-22-24 | | Hercdon: Nobody must like figuring out the bonus game |
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| Mar-22-24 | | mel gibson: I chose the same ply as the game 14. Bxf7+.
Stockfish 16 chose a different ply:
14. Rb1
(14. Rb1 (1.Rb1 Be6 2.Bxe6 Rxe6 3.Rxb2 Qc5 4.c3 Qh5 5.cxb4 Nd7 6.Nd4
Qxd1 7.Rxd1 Rf6 8.Bg5 Rg6 9.Bh4 Kxg7 10.Nf5+ Kf8 11.h3 Re8 12.Rf1 Nb6
13.Rbf2 Nd5 14.a3 Kg8 ) +5.61/36 94)
score for White +5.61 depth 36.
if I force SF to play the game ply it's the same strength: 14. Bxf7+ Kxf7
(14. .. Kxf7 (1. ... Kxf7 2.Be3+ Kg8 3.Bxb6 Bg4 4.Bd4 bxa1R
5.Qxa1 Rxe2 6.h3 Nd7 7.hxg4 c5 8.Qb2 cxd4 9.Qxb4 Rae8 10.Qxb7 R2e7 11.Qd5+
Kxg7 12.Qxd4+ Ne5 13.g5 Kg8 14.Kh2 Kh8 ) -5.57/42 215) score for Black -5.57 depth 42. |
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Mar-22-24
 | | chrisowen: fag affix |
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Mar-22-24
| | perfidious: <chrisowen>, ship me that cigarette! |
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| Mar-23-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: As a first try: 14. Bxf7+ Kxg7 15. Bxe8 bxa1=Q 16. Qxa1+ Kf8 17. Bd6+ (Kg8 18. Bf7# ) Kxe8 18. Qe5+ Kd7 19. Qe7#.
While accepting: Kxf7 15. Bc7+ Kxg7 16. Bxb6 bxa1=Q 17. Qxa1+ Kg8 18. Qf6 Bd7 19. Qf7+ Kh8 20. Bd4+ Ke5 21. Bxe5#. |
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Mar-23-24
 | | Oginschile: In the book "Learn from the Grandmasters" I found it fascinating that Hartston himself calls 15. Be3+ "Probably a mistake".. and gives 15. Ng3+ winning. There's a galaxy of difference between me and grandmasters but even after his analysis which was an exciting read... I'd never trust myself with the attack that follows. This game and many alternate routes throughout continues to be a great game to revisit. |
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Mar-23-24
 | | fredthebear: persona non grata by FTB
persona non grata
has peripheral neuropathy
from ass to toe
it pains him so
won't admit the truth
that's not his m.o.
he cries cries to momma
she gives him skittles
one volunteer to another
another chess riddle
sure it's lousy... but
it's persona non grata |
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Mar-23-24
| | perfidious: <Oginschile....There's a galaxy of difference between me and grandmasters....> Don't I know it.
Despite Hartston booking the win, this was far from easy. As to the twin axes of evil and their tag team act, sayonara to the syphilitic sots. |
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Mar-24-24
 | | al wazir: 17. Rb1 looks like a more straightforward way to win: A) 17...Kxg7 18. Bd4+ Kg8 19. c3 Bd6 20. Qb3+ Be6 21. Qxb7. B) 17...Bxe2 18. Rf8+ Rxf8 19. gxf8=Q+ Bxf8 (19...Kxf8 20. Qxe2 axb6 21. Rf1+) 20. Qxe2 axb6 21. Rxb2. White has ♕+♙ vs. ♘+♗. C) 17...axb6 18. Rxb2 Bxe2 19. Rf8+ Rxf8 20. gxf8=Q+ Bxf8 21. Qxe2. White again has ♕+♙ vs. ♘+♗. |
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