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| Nov-15-21 | | saturn2: If 35...Kg8 36.Ra,b,c,d,e7 |
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Nov-15-21
 | | agb2002: White has a rook for a bishop and a pawn.
Black threatens Rxh2+ followed by perpetual check. White has something more than perpetual: 35.Rxh7+ Kxh7 36.Qxg6+ Kh8 37.Nf7#. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | ajk68: Went for the Rxh7 mate. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Teyss: Also Rxh7. Was wondering why <WTHarvey> said Nxg6+ is mate in 4 instead of 3, it's because Black can interpose 36...Bxh6. So the R line is one move faster but it's not why I chose it, just seemed more obvious. So far the score is R 6 - N 0. Anybody went for 35.Nxg6+? Honestly. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | daladno: I went for Rxh7 option too. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | ndg2: While the game continuation wins by force, it's actually one move longer than the shortest possible mate starting with 35. ♖xh7+. What follows is 35..♔xh7 (or 35..♔g8 36. ♖any#) and then 36. ♕xg6+ ♔h8 37. ♘f7#.
The game continuation needs 4 moves max (with useless bishop interposition) while the shortest mate needs 3 moves. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | et1: Rxh7 etc also. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | Lambda: Well, I looked at Nxg6 first, but had 36.Qxg6 in my mind giving black a move, so I decided to have a quick look at other checks before considering that situation more closely, whereupon I saw the Rxh7 mate. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | goodevans: <Brenin: Black missed a draw with 34 ... Rxh2+ ...> For a player of Stocek's strength (this game was played in the year before he was awarded GM) to miss not one but two simple mates as well as a straightforward draw beggars belief. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | Brenin: <goodevans>: Agreed. Even in time-trouble, an IM and near-GM should be able to see 34 ... Rxh2+. |
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Nov-15-21
| | Steve Holloway: I only saw Qxg6+ Kh8 Nf7 mate |
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Nov-15-21
| | Steve Holloway: Rxh7+ Kxh7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Nf7 mate |
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| Nov-15-21 | | landshark: I'm part of the Rxh7+ crowd too. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | chrisowen: Ok is Rxh7+ good v it afford position bucked it wood Nxg6+ hobble it a visor flush plush v a bridge v i excalibur guv vestibule ok is frump mr fission knack gnaw it jacque v chute vis hutch gripped it i v benny penny it far tocky v it z mission velodrome hedged it buy within jocks it ado griffin v it gg flush it shogi tally rook v i rile it seed it ha in if fig it c link v code x land no q cop vinty it chef gits vestibule jasmine cutting it pin vibrant hic mucky v o hog lit chalk it crib ho v it able wait huck fo i kneel v i cc do pen fester brits dj v glock code its charted it i avarice fare it choo fee it i flick venty toed it o c feng shui v o gen cuff v grits her c v i nack chinman offspin for home tear north gait gen cloak land cried out a horse g6 well v i said h7 too the white hart v i fly fishing too gruff billy float it jets it am Rxh7+ glock Nxg6+ flog. |
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Nov-15-21
| | Teyss: <goodevans> <Brenin> Agreed. One would think Black saw the combination when playing 33...Ne4 instead of a defensive move in a difficult position, attacking the g3 P. Then sighed of relief when White missed 34.Qh3 as pointed out by Brenin. Or maybe Black thought he had threats against the WK and just needed to protect his own K for a while with 34...Rh8 before attacking? Would be a strange oversight. |
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| Nov-15-21 | | KingMJA: I blundered with Rxh7, Kxh7. Qf7+ :( |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Dionysius1: A tip for puzzlers, maybe more useful as the week goes on: If you don't like knowing what assessment of difficulty chessgames.com put on a puzzle, there's an archive of them at Tactics Archive which doesn't tell you what day they were set, and so doesn't give you a clue as to level of difficulty I know people grumble good naturedly about whether the assessments are right anyway. And there was a suggestion a while back that the graduated difficulty through the week be abandoned. I think the archive is a solution, at least for premium members Best wishes
Dion |
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| Nov-15-21 | | Hercdon: Hard to go wrong here after black�s last move |
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Nov-15-21
 | | Once: 35. Nxg6 for me. It either forces black to walk into the cross-hairs of a discovered check Q+R battery, or opens the h file for a Qh3-h7 lift. Once I found that I stopped looking. Okay, so 35 Rxh7+ is one move quicker. But as that extra move is the computerish spite-block Bh6, I think I can live with my failings. |
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Nov-15-21
| | Dionysius1: And I prefer 35. Rxh7 because it's totally forcing. I know me - I miss loopholes too often! |
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| Nov-15-21 | | Stanco: I also went for Rh7+ Qg6+ Nf7# |
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| Nov-15-21 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: My namesake played very well, see that after 35.♘g6+ ♔g8, white wins with simple 36.♖e7#. However, if Black attacked first with: 35...♘xg3+, obviously don't answer 36.♔g1?? ♕e3+ 37.♖f2 ♕xf2#, but 36.hxg3 ♕xg3 37. ♖e7+ ♔h8 38. ♕f6+ ♔g8 39. ♕f7+ ♔h8 40. ♕xh7#. (If 38...♗g7 39.♕xg7#). |
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| Nov-15-21 | | Refused: My first reaction was the Ng6-Qh3-Qh7# manoeuvre. Also saw the Rh7-Qg6-Nf7# alternative. But the mating attack starting with Nxg6+ to clear the h-file felt somehow more natural to me. |
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Nov-15-21
 | | eternaloptimist: I chose 35. Rxh7+! & it would’ve checkmated Stocek a little faster than 35. Nxg6+ if Stocek would’ve played until # |
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| Nov-16-21 | | Nullifidian: 35. ♖xh7+ ♔xh7 36. ♕xg6+ ♔h8 37. ♘f7# |
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